Can I Get IN?!?

<p>Hi everyone,
my name is roger and i just graduated 10th grade from gulf coast high scool here in naples florida. This year (10th grade) i took awicked hard schedule which includes AP World History,Ap Biology, Honors Biology, Spanish 3 Honors, Algebra 2, Geometry Honors, English 2 Honors and Drafting 2. Ive managed to get 6 A’s (includes my Ap classes) and 2 B’s. Ive also joined clubs such as FCA and Key Club and have played 3 Varsit sports (cross country soccer and track). I have 3 School Records in running and will have a 4th soon. My GPA is around 4.4 and my class rank in the top 15. These next two years im really really going to give it all ive got to try an get into an ivy league university such as cornell, princeton or penn to pursue a degree in economics and business. My guidance counselor and i have developled this schedule over the next two years to give me the best oppurtunity of acceptance and I’d like to know what you think of it </p>

<p>Junior Year
AP Chemistry
Chemistry Honors
AP English Comp
Honors English Comp
AP American History
Honors American History
Spanish IV Honors
Pre Calculus Honors </p>

<p>and im taking Ap Art History online
Also for my junior year im doing all three sports at the varsity level and also joing NHS and am running for leadership </p>

<p>Senior Year
AP English Lang
Honors English Lang
AP European History
Honors Eurpean History
AP Spanish
Spanish 5 Honors
AP Calculus AB
Calculus Honors </p>

<p>my online classes will be AP Stats AP GOV and AP ECON
Along with my 3 sports and 3 clubs </p>

<p>My Gpa should be around 5.3 ish due to the weight our school puts on honors and AP courses</p>

<p>My whole family lives up in the New England area and im desperatly trying to get into one of these colleges so I can be given the best chance to leave a mark on this world </p>

<p>If you guys could tell me what my chances are for UPENN accepting me (im doing early decision) it would be wonderful</p>

<p>Thanks for your time,
Roger</p>

<p>Why not take AP Calc BC? Also, do you have any positions in these clubs? SAT scores? Predicted AP scores? Potential essay? There's so much to factor in. And, considering that you plan on majoring in economics and business, why take AP Gov and AP Eco online? I think the college admissions people would rather see you taking that in school rather than online, since these classes are a crucial part of your potential major. In my opinion, why take AP European history online instead?</p>

<p>wow-didnt even think of that,will do, thanks. My Ap Bio and Ap world scores are both 4's and my projected Sat's are in the 1560 range (PSAT"S). With all of my other work, I simply dont have aenough room for AP CAlc BC. AS for the positions, Im going to try to be president of NHS and a leader in FCA</p>

<p>You've got a real good plan. I'd just say that you should always strive to make the best scores and grades on APs that pertain to your potential major, but acing APs that are not for your major is important as well (I'll explain more of why later). Also, if you're looking at UPenn, I would really stress that you sacrifice something less important for AP Calc BC because that'll save you one semester of math at Penn (supposing you get a 5). Plus, AP Calc BC is pretty important for a major like economics and, if you plan on double majoring or dual degreeing (or something like that), it's always best to knock off some courses with APs so that you can leave room for more classes. I can only really provide info for UPenn, so, here, you don't really get much credit for APs. However, you can definitely get Economics credit (you have to take micro and macro, however) but no government credit, so I would really focus on acing the micro and macro AP Eco. Also, in order to get some misc. requirements out of the way, you might want to think about acing your science and/or language APs. You'll get minimal credit for 5s on APs, but they should count, nevertheless, as long as your major doesn't require higher courses. (<-- I think this only really applies to engineering, because we get credit for AP Bio and AP Chem, but the credit is so puny in comparison with our courseload that it's worthless. But, for eco, it should be diff.) But, you have to check on that on the Penn site and scout around for major requirements. I'm an engineering major, so I can't really answer Wharton or the College questions. </p>

<p>Anyways, I hope this helps, and best of luck to you. But, you might want to consider not overdoing your courseload. Remember: quality not quantity. But, if you can keep quality and quantity, then great! But, if your grades start slipping, keep in mind that there are BUTTLOADS of people who apply to these top notch schools with perfect 4.0/4.0 and have all the extracurriculars on top of that.</p>

<p>Get started on college apps early!!!</p>

<p>Id love to take AP Calculus BC,but to be honest-Math isn't truly my strongest gift, Histry and Science is
As for my major-economics isnt anything set in stone-just something i really love
As for the quality over quanity theory-I amtaking all these Ap's strictly because I frankly just love learning and want myself to be as well rounded-not for admission officer, but for myself
Thanks for your help, but if u dont mind answering one more question,well,thatd be great...
What do you think my chances are of getting accepted to Wharton?
I just dont know-because like u said, thousands apply but only a few hundered make it..
thanks again
God bless,
Rog</p>

<p>Well, so far, considering your courseload and extracurriculars (and supposing that you get leadership positions), you're on the right track. But, I think that those 2 B's are a weak spot, frankly, unless your school is particularly hard or you have some sort of explanation--because, remember, you're going up against lots of peeps who have perfect 4.0s. Make up for it by acing all your next classes. Another thing, I believe greatly in the presentation of your app to admissions officers, namely how you present yourself on paper, how you answer the questions, and your essay--since you mostly can only convey yourself through paper. You must make yourself stand out amongst thousands upon thousands of applicants--but still remain true to yourself. Also, try to get an interview if you can. Generally, interviews don't really sway their opinions unless you come off as a total loser, totally disinterested, or some other anomaly--but you should be fine but prepare a little beforehand. It doesn't hurt. ;) Also, take the interview as an opportunity to get your interviewer to root for you. Use it as an opportunity to share something that cannot be conveyed on paper or to emphasize something in particular. Well, I was digressing there for a second, but, to say the least, yes. I believe that you have a good chance and that you are heading def in the right direction. However, take these words with a grain of salt--you ARE applying to WHARTON, after all. Not to discourage you, but sometimes the admissions process is like a crapshoot. I have a friend who did almost everything possible to work toward Wharton as his goal--but he got rejected. Why? No one knows. He literally had everything going for him. He had even taken the liberty to personally set up interviews with many influential people at UPenn and gone out of his way to make himself known! Then again, don't take this as a discouraging word but motivation to do your best these next two years. If you don't make it, don't sweat it--and definitely don't turn suicidal, etc. over it. It's not worth it! So, keep your options and your mind open these next few years because you'll definitely end up happier in the end! And, if you make it, definitely congrats! You've worked hard and earned it. :)
P.S. It never hurts to make good connections with your teachers and counselors. Don't suck up completely--they can tell--but make it so that it's a good, solid relationship.
P.P.S. I've had lots of experience with presidents of clubs who end up being total asses because they did literally nothing and didn't care. You don't sound like one of those people, but, take on a responsibility, and keep it and be enthusiastic about it! It'll impress teachers and students. Also, it's a bonus if you're an officer and do something with the club that has never been done before--major fundraiser, etc.</p>

<p>Best of luck! ;)
If you need more advice, any questions, anything, feel free to send me a PM!</p>

<p>Honestly, I think Wharton is one of the most competitive schools to get into. I know a ton of people who got into MIT etc and didn't get into Wharton, even with the most ridiculous stats. I think it's pretty much a crapshoot, but you definitely seem to be way up there.</p>

<p>However, I do second what deedee said. You should look at the AP credit list of the schools you're applying to. And I definitely think you should try to get the required 5s on the APs if you're planning to take a lot of the intro courses. A 5 on the spanish, physics mech & e/m, micro/maco, and Calc BC are invaluable. In fact, if you think that you're not very good at math, the Calc BC might just be the best thing for you. Since you get credit for the course but no grade, it doesn't affect your GPA. So if you think you won't do so well in college in calc, get the requirement out of the way now =)</p>

<p>Oh yeah, and make sure the AP tests you're paying to take will actually get you out of classes in college. I took psych and it was the biggest waste of $82 in my life. Didn't affect my academic life at all.</p>

<p>^ I totally second what Michael said! Really check up on what APs to take! I wasted a buttload of money too. :(</p>

<p>Of course, work hard in all of your AP classes--up until the point you've chosen your college and checked out what AP classes they get credit for--and whether that credit actually helps you.</p>

<p>ap tests are free at my school
As for the Calc BC theory-how much harder is it thatn clac AB-and is it possible to take them at the saem time?</p>

<p>Wow! Geesh! WE have to shell out $56/test. Man, so take advantage of the tests then! Okay, but, back to your question--in my opinion, well, at least at my school, calc BC really is not that hard. But, the teacher for this course was also very good and helpful. Also, I found AB to just move TOO SLOW. They lolligag on topics for too long. So, I agree with Michael. Especially since college calc will be guaranteed probably a degree harder, you might as well take calc bc in high school, where there is lots more help and room for a better grade. It doesn't hurt to try--you can always drop down. And, if you take the chance, and ace the AP, then all the better!</p>

<p>The calc AB is teaches like half of the material of BC. I don't think it covers series at all, and doesn't go really in depth into methods of integration.</p>

<p>I guess you would have to worry about what BC does to your GPA, but if you think you can survive it for the first semester, then you don't need to worry so much about the grades in the second semester.</p>

<p>is calc BC that necccesary for me to get into Wharton? Because,if it's not-i think i ll keep all euro and ap stats instead of BC</p>

<p>it's not necessary. Calc 104 is the equivalent, and since it's required the first year of wharton, a lot of wharton kids take it at penn. Stick to your plan, you'll be fine</p>

<p>alright thanks for all your help
im gonna stick to my plan and see where it takes me instead of trying and squeezing in Calc BC...
Thanks,
Mike</p>