Can I get some help with deciding between UCLA and UCSD?

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<p>I don't think I'll be making the final decision anytime soon, and I posted this in another thread (but got no replies <em>sad</em>). </p>

<p>Before having seen either of the two schools I've been accepted to (SD & LA), I'm conflicted. I guess that's natural.</p>

<p>The thing that makes it weird is I applied to two different majors that can both lead me down the same career path.</p>

<p>At UCSD, I was accepted as a management science major and at UCLA, I was accepted as a Math/Applied Science major and would most likely go with the Operations Research track if I do go there.</p>

<p>The Math/Applied Science major has roughly an equal share of classes between math and economics classes, which I guess is more similar to UCSD's Math/Econ major, whereas UCSD's Management Science major is going to be a lot of economics (specifically micro-) classes that emphasize the quantitative side of things.</p>

<p>While my Math grades through my life have been pretty good and I'm confident in my math abilities, I'm not sure if I'm cutout for a math intensive major. ...and I'm not even sure I want to be taking math classes for the next two years, I don't find myself enjoying it (relatively...duh).</p>

<p>I'm not looking to get my PhD or anything, my career plans are currently: graduate, find a job (as of now, I'm thinking something in finance/investment banking/consulting) for a few years, then get into an MBA program. In the long run, where I receive my MBA from is huge, but getting into an MBA program is largely dependent on your work experience, internships, and undergraduate major/gpa.</p>

<p>I'm not really sure what it's like to find internships through UCSD for things like this, and I suspect that UCLA will be more resourceful than this. Also, by search on this forum and just searching around in general, I can't seem to figure out which will present me with more job opportunities in the aforementioned fields once I receive my bachelor's.</p>

<p>If anyone could help me with this or point me in a direction that would help, that would be great.</p>

<p>Oh, and Berkeley would have been ideal (had everything worked out since the major I applied to is capped...to a very small number) as I applied to an Operations Research/Management major and that seemed to fit all my needs (and was close to home so everyone was happy!). Oh well, gotta settle with what I've got, and they're not bad options</p>

<p>Thanks in advance. :)</p>

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<p>Go to UCLA and do Applied Science Management Track not Operations Research.</p>

<p>That is the CLOSEST thing UCLA has to undergrad Business - you will take GRADUATE level courses in the Anderson school and you will take accounting courses.</p>

<p>If you go in the summers you can even take Finance and Investments in the Econ department- reason i say summer is because during the term the BizEcon majors get first crack and those classes fill up- but in in the summer they are open to all majors.</p>

<p>The major in both schools will be MATH INTENSIVE so do not think you are going to get a good job prep type of business major. </p>

<p>You can easily switch majors within UCLA math department also, so changing tracks will not be a problem. check out the managment track it fits your career goals better.</p>

<p>Also, in terms of internships in your field, UCLA wins- and you can minor in accounting which will give you access to some BIG4 internships and the like.</p>

<p>So, for bschool prep and a job post graduation i suggest UCLA math-applied science- management track with minor in accounting.</p>

<p>edit; i just looked at the applied science tracks and it appears that Management track is no longer accepting new students as of Nov 2007- in addition to that i do not see Operations Research track anywhere. The only plan that relates to your goals is Actuarial Science, or change into Math/Econ at UCLA and minor in accounting. </p>

<p>UCLA</a> Department of Mathematics</p>

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<p>Thanks a lot!</p>

<p>"The major in both schools will be MATH INTENSIVE so do not think you are going to get a good job prep type of business major. "</p>

<p>While they're both math intensive, I know I'll face more math at UCLA, and a more intensive series of math. </p>

<p>UCLA does seem to have the better opportunities...I'm really going to have to think about this. </p>

<p>Do you know how well UCLA accommodates students as far as support goes for Math majors and all? </p>

<p>Thanks again :)</p>

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<p>I also got into ucla and ucsd obviously the best thing to do is visit the schools and see which one you like best and can "see" yourself living for the next few years. With that said, in regard to career opportunities and internships your better bet is ucla. Look at the businesses around ucsd and ucla and make a comparison. If there is a specific place you like in la jolla or sd than go there, but most likely the bank or firm you will be most interested in will have a location in la. I'm going to ucla so I may be biased, but the best of luck to you!</p>

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<p>Why do you think math will be more intensive at UCLA</p>

<p>the math sequence is pretty much the same at both UCs.</p>

<p>There is tutoring for math in covel commons- but it is more lower div math. In terms of help you have office hours and TAs and discussion sections, there might be additional tutoring on campus but it will depend on the class, the higher level math has less resources for help.</p>

<p>here is some tutoring stuff UCLA</a> Department of Mathematics</p>

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<p>sure I can, UCLA.</p>

<p>Oh, but I didn't read your original post.</p>

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<p>I will just say that I got accepted to UCSD in Spring of 06- and said i am not going in hopes of getting into UCLA for Fall 06. ... i ended up going to UCLA (applied with same majors as you)</p>

<p>For me there was NO CONTEST between the two schools.</p>

<p>UCSD is a bio/pre med place in my eyes, and UCLA at least is more well rounded even though it is heavily premed</p>

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<p>Ginger, I agree. I will be visiting both schools on the weekend of the 9th and I think it's very important to see how I like the atmosphere at each school. Thanks!</p>

<p>I've done all the lower division math, I've completed it all. The difference is going to come in the upper division math courses, I believe. </p>

<p>For UCSD Management Science:</p>

<h1>Upper-division economics core courses. ECON 100A-B-C (microeconomics), ECON 120A-B-C (econometrics), ECON 171 (decisions under uncertainty), ECON 172A-B (operations research) and ECON 173A-B (finance).</h1>

<ol>
<li>Upper-division economics electives. Four more economics courses at the upper-division level. At least two of these elective courses must be “advanced electives.” The management science advanced electives are:</li>
</ol>

<p>ECON 103: International Monetary Relations
ECON 104: Economics of Network Industries
ECON 105: Industrial Organization and Firm Strategy
ECON 109: Game Theory
ECON 113: Mathematical Economics
ECON 119: Law and Economics: Contracts and Corporations
ECON 121: Applied Econometrics
ECON 125: Demographic Analysis and Forecasting
ECON 150: Public Economics: Taxation
ECON 151: Public Economics: Expenditures I
ECON 152: Public Economics: Expenditures II
ECON 155: Political Economics
ECON 174: Financial Risk Management
ECON 176: Marketing</p>

<h2>ECON 178: Economic and Business Forecasting</h2>

<p>For UCLA Math/Applied Sciences Management/Accounting track (for example):</p>

<p>Required: Seven Mathematics Department courses, including Mathematics 115A, 131A, 164, 170A or Statistics 100A or 110A, Mathematics 170B or Statistics 100B or 110B, and two courses from Mathematics 106 through 199 and Statistics 100C; eight management courses, including Management 120A, 120B, 122, 140, 212A, 212B, and one additional course from 108 through 182.</p>

<p>Just looking at the named math courses, those are:
Linear Algebra
Analysis
Optimization
Probability Theory (two semesters)</p>

<h2>And then two more upper div math courses</h2>

<h2>To clear something up, I have been fine with math through my college career thus far, I've done an exceptional job in those courses. I'm just not sure how I feel about taking several UD math courses over the next two years. Make sense?</h2>

<p>Did you really apply with the same majors as me? <em>high five</em>
So what is your major/track now? And what are your career goals?</p>

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<p>I applied math/econ</p>

<p>They dont offer management track anymore- Last students for that were Nov 2007.</p>

<p>I changed majors at UCLA to graduate faster and moved to NY and go to school here doing a second bachelor as part of a 5 year program (BA in actuarial science and MS in Accounting)</p>

<p>I will be quite honest- i had all As in undergrad community college math- except for Stats- i never went to tutoring, i studied the night b4 the exams- i would score close to perfect on everything and I had the HARDEST time with UCLA math- maybe i am just dumb, i am not trying to discourage anyone, but you really have to study and that is not something I EVER had to do for math... and the theory approach didnt click for me, i am taking pretty much the same courses now part of the Actuarial Sciencebut as part of a BBA program so they are more application based (business applications) and it is night and day for me. But that is just me, you really have to consider how much time and effort you will put into your math courses at UCLA- i was an adult student, i had a job, and after school tutoring and so on was just not something i had time for.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I just saw your edit. I guess that really changes things, then, huh?</p>

<p>They do have the individual plan, though. I don't see why it would be difficult to just go with the management track and have an advisor approve it or whatever's necessary?</p>

<p>edit: I just saw your edit and that is very helpful to see, the transition between CC math and UCLA math. Thank you very much! You've been a huge help so far! :)</p>

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<p>You might have a hard time having them approve upper division courses at Anderson for you to take (such as the management track allowed)</p>

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<p>Ohhhhhhhh</p>

<p>Hmmm, this is definitely something I'll have to inquire about via email and when I visit there. </p>

<p>Thanks again!</p>