<p>Can i take PHYS 2213 before PHYS 1112?
I do not have AP credits for either of them.
Physics 2213=e&m
Physics 1112=mechanics</p>
<p>I want to take 2213 first, because I am an ECE major and am more interested in studying e&m.
As for the pre-requisite, I feel like I already know a lot of PHYS 1112( even though I couldn't take the AP)</p>
<p>I want to know if we are allowed to do this?
And can I affiliate with my major even if I didn't take PHYS 1112, until end of sophomore year?</p>
<p>It’s called a pre-requisite for a reason.
It means you must take those classes before you move on to upper-level classes.</p>
<p>In certain circumstances, if you have AP Credits, you will be able to entirely skip those pre-reqs.
In your case, however, you don’t.
Just because you “know” the materials already doesn’t mean you should/are allowed to skip them.</p>
<p>In order for you to be affiliated with the major:
a) Must have completed with a grade of C+ or better MATH 2930, PHYS 2213, and either ECE/ENGRD 2100, ECE 2200, or ECE/ENGRD 2300</p>
<p>b)Must have an average GPA of at least 2.5 in the following courses if completed: MATH 1920, 2930, 2940, PHYS 2213, ECE/ENGRD 2100, ENGRD 2110, ECE 2200, ECE/ENGRD 2300</p>
<p>So the answer is no. You need to take Phys 1112 in order to take Phys 2213, which you need for declaring your major.
I understand your eagerness, but you have 4 years at Cornell.
There’s no reason to rush things.</p>
<p>There is a test you can take at orientation to get physics credit. I’m not sure which credit they give you, look it up. So, yes, you may possibly be able to do that.</p>
<p>Let me rephrase that, you don’t really need to know the material in math 1920 in order to do well in phys 2213. No one will give you a hard time if you just enroll and remain quiet about it. It might become an issue if you keep asking the professor or department for permission. I took math 1920 and phys 2213 in the same semester, and no one seemed to care.</p>
<p>I know people who’ve had trouble with the department over it. And 95% of 1920 is not used in 2213, but still, familiarity with 3-dimensional vectors and parameterization really helps. For some people, they MIGHT need a whole semester of multivariable to get to that level.</p>
<p>^ True. I was assuming the OP has some level of mathematical maturity and knows what he can or cannot handle. Though if OP really feels like he can handle it and really wants to, he shouldn’t let a pre-req get in the way. </p>
<p>I don’t know those people, but if I had to conjecture I’d wager most of their problems arose from trying to get departmental consent in the first place. I know several people who signed up for 2213 as a freshman like me (and were taking 1920 as a co-req). The professor made his position very clear that it was a strict pre-req. So making a case to the department or professor wasn’t the best course of action.</p>
<p>Moral of the story is don’t make a big deal about pre-reqs by trying to email professors or departments, you will end up creating your own problems.</p>
<p>Yeah, 1116/1112 serve the same requirement. 1116 is for people who are really passionate about physics and are looking for the extra challenge. You can try it, and if it’s too hard for you, you can drop down to 1112.</p>