Can someone please give me a SERIOUS advise about engineering, what should I do?

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<p>I am a computer engineering student and I seriously hate my major. </p>

<p>I am a transfer student at NC State and I was doing fairly strong in Calc/Physics (I took these in community college). But as I approach my upper classes at NC State, level 2 to be precise, its just getting harder and harder.</p>

<p>I have to learn verilog and i don't care about hardware coding, I have to learn MATLAB, signal processing...WHY?....I have to learn KVL KCL diodes, nodes circuits....I DON'T CARE ABOUT Electrical engineering. Even though I enjoy programming but now I find it quite difficult, I can code but I am not good with debugging. I haven't even started embedded systems and I know I am going to cry in that class. </p>

<p>WHy do I have to learn useless things in college, all these things are a waste of knowledge to me.</p>

<p>I don't have any friends, all the people are so ignorant and closeminded at NC State, when I ask for help....they help you in a way where YOU have to think about it....how can I think about something when I don't understand?</p>

<p>I am skipping so many classes just to do homework for my other classes. school work really gets out of control.</p>

<p>My relation with my family is breaking apart...all because of computer engineering.</p>

<p>I feel like switching to business because engineering is too hard and not worth the stress when other majors can get you the same money. I don't even know what to expect in business, what can I do with that degree.</p>

<p>Transferring out of engineering will be difficult because I have a low GPA and you need higher than 3.0. </p>

<p>I don't know what to do, I feel like crying but I just can't. Can someone please suggest me what I should do? pound on for 2 years or drop and switch to business.</p>

<p>I have a lot of Level 3 and 4 classes to cover before I graduate....please someone help!</p>

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<p>Kindle: Dont worry about it…perhaps start looking at business majors like Marketing, Finance, Accounting, etc.</p>

<p>I will not say their courses are easy but you have to like it in order to be successful. Perhaps, Engineering is not for you? just like those kids that dont like broccoli and if you force it, those kids will throw-up and will not eat at all.</p>

<p>Go to library and borrow some books about marketing, accounting, finance, etc…see for yourself. </p>

<p>Or, how about nursing schools or trade schools like cooking, automotive repairs, etc…as there is got to be something that you will like.</p>

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<p>@Jan2013:</p>

<p>Thank you, you are the only kind person who actually took some time to answer my question.</p>

<p>What can you actually do in business? in finance area? where does the degree lead me to?</p>

<p>I have an interest in cars but what can I possibly do with that? Mech. Engineering? What kind of career can that give me?</p>

<p>Does ECE seriously gets harder in level 3 or 4 classes? I keep getting the feeling that I should not quit and just work hard. I am not sure if switching will be the best decision.</p>

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<p>Change to computer science ? You could go mechanical engineering…What kind of companies do you want to work for ?</p>

<p>“all the people are so ignorant and closeminded at NC State”</p>

<p>Umm Pardon me but What else did you expect at North Carolina ?</p>

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if you are doing engineering for money not because you love it then drop immediately Bro.</p>

<p>you can pick up Accounting ,it is really nice and a lot of people use the following sentence when googling :</p>

<p>ENGINEERING VS ACCOUNTING !!!</p>

<p>p.s:
if you keep dropping your classes ,how come are you going to understand them??</p>

<p>I don’t wanna be pessimistic but if you don’t like your major ,it is not a problem because you can go into the major you like.
why would you like to sacrifice your social life,making Friends… if you are not enjoying studying engineering ??
for me ,I am ready to do that because I love engineering since I was a kid.</p>

<p>Ok,now I have to end this post and go for the supper :slight_smile: and I will say my last advice for you>></p>

<p>take a deep breath ,go to the library and pick some accounting or whatever you want and explore them,go and sit down with Accounting students and talk to them.
talk to your advisor.
do that for a week and see what happens.
and the most important thing I guess is >>talk to your professor.</p>

<p>and come back here to tell us how it’s going.</p>

<p>GOOD LUCK.</p>

<p>best;</p>

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<p>^ Umm pardon me, but that…was ignorant.</p>

<p>Kindle, I go to State too and believe me I know it sucks taking all the classes that are outside of our majors but its just how the engineering dept is. Honestly, things are not going to get any easier in Mech E. Since you seem to be more coding inclined I would seriously consider moving over to the CS department if you can. Other than that, I really wouldn’t switch to business. Honestly, this is two years of hurt for the rest of your life to live comfortably… A business degree will not do much for you from State.</p>

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<p>" Umm pardon me, but that…was ignorant."</p>

<p>And you goto North Carolina State…gee what a surprise…my point is proven along with the stereotype. No further questions.</p>

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<p>Yes, yes, we get it. You’re a ■■■■■. We all understand, you can stop now.</p>

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<p>No I am sorry Chucktown but XtremePower has a point, I don’t think your in engineering so you wouldn’t understand. Some people in NC State can be like that.</p>

<p>In NC State, a student is just another fish out in the open sea, which can be good or bad. Overall it has a very good engineering program, especially ECE. I just came here for my education.</p>

<p>Honestly, it was my dream to be a computer engineering…but it turns out that I really hate EE and will not go into it. I will look into Computer Science. If I don’t like it then I’ll just have to get my act together, slow down and finish Computer Engineering.</p>

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<p>No, I am definitely in Engineering at NCSU. Taken all the weed out courses. Been there, done that. I am finishing up an Internship right now in Atlanta and will have 3 semesters left when I get back. Transferring from a CC to a university is rough. I did that when I got my first degree from Chapel Hill. I am getting a second degree in IE now. Keep your head up, try to dig deep, and look into CS.</p>

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Computer Engineering is essentially a cross between Electrical Engineering and Computer Science… and you seem to be saying you neither enjoy nor can handle either one. All of those things you mentioned are indeed important to Computer Engineering, and it is important that you have at least a basic understanding of them. This is not unique to your school.</p>

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Because otherwise they are doing it for you, which is no help at all.</p>

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It is not the field, it is you. Perhaps you in are the wrong field, but no field can cause family stress, only your reaction can do that.</p>

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There are very very few non-engineering majors that can make you the same money (accounting being the only one that comes to mind), but there are some that come close and there are certainly plenty with higher salaries for at least a select few. But based on your current level of hysterics I would certainly advise that you begin the transfer process.</p>

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I believe that there is a forum for business majors that will provide a better answer than you will get here.</p>

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Speak to your advisor. Speak to advisors in some other potential departments, like Business Administration or Accounting. A “difficult” transfer is certainly superior to continuing on a failing path that you hate.</p>

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At most bigger engineering schools, your top-level classes are technical electives. They are harder in many ways, but the idea is that you pick classes in some subfield that you enjoy and in which you excel. For example, I had to take circuits and control systems and other courses as a junior in EE, but as a senior I took almost entirely remote sensing and EM courses - and did well in them because that I was what I enjoyed and did well in. The areas I hated and/or where I struggled? I avoided electives in those fields!</p>

<p>In many engineering programs, the middle years are the worst, but in most cases you just need to put your head down and plow through it. In your case, it sounds like there are no upsides, no “good” courses that you can expand on and make a career out of.</p>

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<p>If you prefer to work mainly with software, computer science is typically more software focused than computer engineering, which tends to be more hardware focused.</p>

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<p>Kindle, you said this:“What can you actually do in business? in finance area? where does the degree lead me to?”</p>

<p>And you said this also:“I am a transfer student at NC State and I was doing fairly strong in Calc/Physics (I took these in community college).”</p>

<p>I would say: I am not trying to change your major, etc. But, if you are strong in Math aka Calc. Then it is very useful in Finance Major. Upon getting a degree in Finance, you can work in the bank. Yes, you can find work at Investment banking (Wall Street) as Analyst as they require analyst for high finance. You will be doing lots of financial simulation, matrix, etc. AND they pay is awesome…I am talking big figures for starter. There are lots of articles being written about this…just google it.</p>

<p>Or, you can work in traditional Banks (Corporate and Consumer Banking). Try to get into their MDP (Management Development Programs). After nine months or so, you will be placed as Assistant Manager in their Operations, Marketing, Credit Analyst, etc. The pay is good too…and that’s a starting point for your banking career. THEN, you need to get MBA after working two years to get ahead.</p>

<p>Other business majors like Marketing (or sales for lack of better word) , you need to have the attitude and skills in Customer Service. Not everyone can have it. The pay is good too…I mean the commission is Huge if you are good at Sales and Marketing.</p>

<p>Other business major is accounting…it is a good field too and since you are good with numbers, perhaps you may like this debit and credit, auditing, preparing financial statements (Balance Sheet, Income Statement - P&L), etc. And the pay is good too.</p>

<p>You said this: “I have an interest in cars but what can I possibly do with that? Mech. Engineering? What kind of career can that give me?”</p>

<p>I would say: You wanna design cars? or you like working with cars like mechanics, etc?..</p>

<p>Anyhow, it seems that you are not able to grasp the LOGIC of Engineering…and that will be an uphill battle for you to do any Engineering Majors like Mechanical Eng, Civil Eng, EE, Comp Eng, etc…and the classes are getting harder, I am not kidding. </p>

<p>And if you force yourself, you will end up hating yourself aka throw-up just like those little kids that dont like brocolli.</p>

<p>So, slow down and take a deep breath and perhaps talk to the counselor or your school advisor. And try to understand or implement some of the advises being given in here?..</p>

<p>Just remember if you can not do Engineering (Comp Eng, EE, etc), it does not mean your world is crumbling…be strong and life is good.</p>

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<p>One thing you should consider before taking any drastic steps… perhaps you are a victim of poor advising (really, really common in STEM). Did you have the prereqs for the classes you signed up for? Is your course load too heavy, maybe you’d be able to assimilate the work better if you took fewer credits? STEM advisers often love to load students (especially transfer students) with 20+ credits of courses they are not prepared for.
I’m betting the bad attitude about your courses and the family stress is a result of the workload from your courses and has little to do with whether the contents are ‘useless’.<br>
Oh, and debugging IS a pain. (The old joke in CS was that a good C programmer knocks off a program in 1 hour, then spends the next 100 hours debugging it. Your mileage may vary…)</p>

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<p>Stop! Just stop. You cannot be happy as a computer engineering major or even an engineer or a computer scientist. Debugging is just about the most important skill of all of them, and if you don’t like it, you are extremely lost. It’s a huge mistake to separate the programming from the debugging. Writing code that doesn’t work doesn’t count for anything. All programs, even correct ones, need to be debugged to make sure they work. Debugging allows you to walk through your code to make sure it does what you intended. As the complexity increases, as it must to do anything useful, it is simply impossible to get it right the first time without debugging. The statement “I enjoy programming but I hate debugging” makes absolutely no sense to me. </p>

<p>I think that you should switch to business. Maybe programming management information systems would appeal to you, but that’s a very different degree from computer engineering. </p>

<p>Seek professional counseling for your emotional state also, you really don’t need to live in the depressed state that you currently seem to live. (I mean the state of depression not the state of North Carolina). It’s not an insult, it’s just an observation. You owe yourself a happier life. </p>

<p>Go and switch majors, and then take it one day at a time.</p>

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<p>What if I keep taking computer science related classes and train myself to code and debug programs? I have never had a good experience in programming in the past as well…started from high school, in Visual Basics.net…my teacher quit and everyone struggled. I took Java in community college (online class) but at the end I struggled. For C Programming, I understand but I am terrible at debugging, I feel like I have never grasped debugging as a skill before.</p>

<p>Am I seriously doomed even for computer science or can I still take another stand and turn this around?</p>