Can strong LOR's offset lack of course rigor?

Can my rank could be computed without freshman year for such schools? If so, I’d be top ~10. I realize they probably can’t do this, though. Rank is also weighted at my school, and a bunch of kids were put in higher tracks than me from the moment they entered my school.

It’s just unfortunate that my school administration’s decision to put me in low tracks, which was understandable at the time, is one of the major reasons I won’t get into a more selective college. It wasn’t something that was in my control, and yet it will mark my app in such a way that my app will probably be thrown out immediately.

If you take the Oct 23 ACT, you would have your score by first week in November. That’s time enough for ED.

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I was just told that I’d get it back on the 2nd of November, but it could be later.

That’s risky, but probably worth it.

ED: If not for ED, I’ll take it for RD.

You will be ranked in the same way the rest of the senior cohort at your school is ranked.

There is no can you rank me based on my sophomore and junior grades because my intent is to apply only to schools that do not look at freshman year grades.

If the cohort ranking is at the beginning of senior year is based on 3 years of grades, that is how you will be ranked.

If everyone in your cohort is ranked based on unweighted gpa, that is how you will be ranked.

That’s what I assumed. I guess I’ll need to use the additional info section.

You would need to submit your ED application without a score. You would then update your application if you get a high score. Do not automatically send it until you know how you did.

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This thread is all over the place, but where do you think I would start when it comes to studying? Not at all familiar with the ACT. I did take a few section practice tests last night and did far better than I was expecting, though.

It would be best to start a new thread, and/or read old threads about the same topic.

Start here

As this is where the thread about testing would be moved to.

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A school takes the class rank your hs calculates. How could it recalculate just YOUR gpa and then put it back into the list of gpa’s for your high school when those other gpa’s included 9th grade? What about the other kids who also had lower grades in 9th grade?

Your rank is what it is. My daughter was in top 10 if they used only unweighted grades but just outside it if they used weighted grades (she didn’t have as many AP and honors grades because she’d gone to 3 different high schools, and those didn’t offer as many as their general courses were much, much harder).

The school did put both ranks on the transcript and the colleges could do what they wanted with the info, but the colleges didn’t recalculate her rank, and really couldn’t have because they didn’t have the transcripts of the other 434 kids in the class.

The only way it could work is if my school recalculates everyone’s rank unweighted and without freshman year, and could show that to AO’s.

I doubt they’d do that, or if a freshman-blind school would even consider it. I guess I’m stuck with a subpar rank…

Can I omit class rank? If I did, I’m assuming colleges would see that I “requested my class rank to not be shown.” That’d be awkward.

Beloved,

That is not going to happen. It is highly unlikely that your school is going to recalculate everyone else’s gpa and rank to accommodate you.

Again, this is where you need to know what is on your transcript and your school profile.

No matter what you put down ( or choose to omit), the application is going have the question, which your your counselor will be expected to truthfully answer if your school ranks.

It your school ranks the GC will answer questions regarding the class size (number of people are being ranked) and what is your rank.

They will also ask if the GPAs are weighted or unweighted along with the highest gpa in the class.

In addition they are going to ask in comparison to the rest of the cohort your counselor will answer as to whether your course work is

Most demanding
Very demanding
Demanding
Average
Below average.

The report will also ask about your senior year course work.

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Why are you trying to jump through way too many hoops in order to make fetch happen. Guess what fetch is not going to happen. This is going to create a lot of unnecessary stress in what should be an enjoyable senior year.

You are insistent on explaining your situation and talking about what you would have could have done freshman year if your MS performance was not used to determine your freshman class by placement.

You are insistent on using your related device provider- the special education teacher to write your recommendation instead of reaching out to the general educator for one of your core courses. Remember, you don’t have to disclose on your application that you are a student with a disability

However, once you bring it up in your additional information and the AO reads your recommendation written by your special Ed teacher, it will be game on. While I hate to see train wrecks, you would rather set your self up for one twisting yourself yo fit a narrative that runs counter to who you are.

But do you.

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I have two letters of recommendation from core teachers already. One from my English teacher, whose class I was at the top of and who was very complimentary of my work, and one from my math teacher, whose class I had a 99 average in and who I had a great connection with. Both went to top schools.

I need to consult my college counselor and give them background info. I pay the school enough money to at least be heard by them. And while I can’t definitively change their mind one way or another, I can urge them to hear me out. If they write a favorable letter for me, I am in a good spot.

I am done with this thread.

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This thread reads like an episode from Shark Tank.

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When contemplating “tactics”, I would suggest you consider how successful (or not) you have been in persuading the adults that have patiently responded to you throughout this thread.

An attitude and strategy that is “urging” educators to write a “favorable” LOR and suggesting you are somehow entitled “to be heard” based upon how much you (your parents) pay will end poorly.

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Your counselor most definitely will write a ‘favorable’ letter and present you in the best possible light. That’s what private school counselors do and they have the time and resources to do it. What she/he won’t do is stretch the truth/fabricate info etc. They are concerned about the school’s reputation for the long term more than just one individual student. But they won’t try to sabotage you or go out of their way to highlight weakness. They will focus on the positives of your application.

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You have a learning disability. Your rigor is sub-par. You have no test scores. Your rank is average. Your EC’s are average to good (according to you but I don’t think you have listed them).

What is it about your application that makes you think you are going to get in ahead of kids who have the rigor, the grades, the test scores, and amazing EC’s? If you had a perfect SAT or some other indication that you are really an amazing student, maybe you would have the slightest chance but even then, these schools would be a huge stretch. But you don’t have such a score. It’s too bad you have a LD and you got placed in the track that you did because of it, but millions of kids have LD’s, mental illnesses, live in poverty, have abusive parents, have medical conditions, etc …….the list goes on and on. The T20’s don’t just let all of these people in because they “overcame” something. Not sure why you think you are the exception. My D had the same GPA, higher rank, test scores, and rigor than you. None of these schools were even on her radar as she knew she wouldn’t be admitted. It’s time for a reality check and to stop complaining that everything is not fair.

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Your Weighted GPA for college admission is NOT a 4.6
Your school from your earlier post inflates GPA’s by giving 1 extra point to Honors classes
Which is fine many schools do including my sons but colleges recalculated it so every one is on an even playing field
As stated earlier you need to recalculate your GPA adding .5 to Honor classes. A = 4.5 for Honors and only add the 1 point to AP classes A = 5.0 for AP
Many schools only use Core classes you should recalculated with core classes only
This will show where you stand compared to admitted classes

The only school I heard of in the top 100 that uses the 1 point for Honors and 2 points for AP is Elon.

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