<p>people often compare canadian unis with US unis.... </p>
<p>McGill and UofT are often compared to top US school. (obviously not ivey) </p>
<p>unis such as McGill and UofT = which uni in the US?</p>
<p>American higher education is best in the world. Our grade level schooling-systems suck arse though.</p>
<p>Uhmm, our university SYSTEM is probably the best in the world, simply because we have so much variety, and so many options: really, if someone WANTS to go and can reasonably meet university requirements, they can get a bachelor’s. However, MOST American universities are not as good as the flagship unis of other countries.</p>
<p>To the post itself: I’ve got no idea, sorry. I only know a bit about UK and NZ unis.</p>
<p>I’d put them around Michigan’s level.</p>
<p>If i do my undergrad from McGill and hopefullr get 3.7 or more gpa… what are my chances that i ill end up doing my grad studies from an Ivey… or a top US grad school like cornell?</p>
<p>“I’d put them around Michigan’s level.”
How do you know? Did you go to Michigan and Mcgill or Toronto?</p>
<p>People shouldn’t make comments like this. They can’t prove it if they didn’t go.</p>
<p>I hear that at Canadian universities is it not like the US. It is hard to get a high GPA like 3.7. I’m not completely sure, though. I’m sure US universities are aware of this. You just have to make sure to be on the research.</p>
<p>according to the QS world university rankings, McGill(20th place) is about on the level of Michigan(18th place) and Carnegie Mellon(21st place). however, UToronto(41st place) is more on the level of NYU(40th place) and Boston University(46th place).</p>
<p>^^ If that’s true, then
Dartmouth College (54th) is about on the level of Wisconsin-Madison (55th).
Princeton (12th) is about on the same level of Duke and Johns Hopkins (13th)</p>
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I have often said that I will not reveal where I attended college (or grad school), but suffice it to say that I am exceedingly familiar with both Michigan and Toronto. McGill is extremely weak in my area of focus so I never bothered to consider it, but it is certainly no stronger than Toronto.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that I consider Michigan a top 15 school, so this is no insult to the Canadian universities. I stand by my placement, however – there is a reason Toronto hires heavily from top American universities.</p>
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<p>yes, LAC-style schools tend to get screwed in most all rankings of world universities. however, I didn’t mention any LAC-style schools in my post, so your argument isn’t all that relevant</p>
<p>“yes, LAC-style schools tend to get screwed in most all rankings of world universities. however, I didn’t mention any LAC-style schools in my post, so your argument isn’t all that relevant”</p>
<p>Well, then I’ll provide you with non LAC-style schools.
Stanford (17th) is about on the level of Michigan (18th)?
Virginia (96th) is about on the level of Pittsburgh (97th)?
Basically what I’m trying to say here is the ranking isnt valid and shouldnt be used to compare world universities.</p>
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<p>when we’re comparing overall universities, UVA isn’t that strong. it has a selective undergrad program but can’t match schools like Michigan and Berkeley in overall strength. </p>
<p>stanford is listed as the 11th best american university. it didn’t do as well as H and Y but it didn’t get destroyed either. and yes, many internationals hold Stanford and Michigan in similar regard. these rankings aren’t based on difficulty of undergrad admission.</p>
<p>So what are the rankings based on because if memory serves me correct, Stanford has better professional schools and graduate schools than Michigan and basically, the only school that might be better than Stanford, all things considered, is probably Harvard.</p>
<p>I agree that Stanford should be ranked higher on that survey. However, Michigan as an overall university is really that good.</p>
<p>as long as you dont go to university of manitoba you’ll be alright</p>
<p>so McGill mechanical engineering = Michigan mechanical engineering ?</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>McGill mechanical engineering ALMOST = Michigan mechanical engineering ?</p>
<p>Just a few quick commends.</p>
<p>No Canadian university has the facility of top US state schools, but the faculty in the top Canadian schools is about as good as you will find anywhere. The student body is probably better than most state schools.</p>
<p>I doubt the McGill mechanical engineering department can match Michigan, though the student body would.</p>
<p>A gpa of 3.7 in a strong Canadian engineering program is very hard to do. Even in arts and sciences it is difficult. In U of T, you can graduate with honours with something less than a 3.3 gpa. I lived most of my life near that campus and personally I know of only two person who have accomplished that feat. I see McGill as a smaller version of the same thing.</p>
<p>If you want to study engineering at a graduate level, doing well in any one of the three mentioned would do. The standard is well known in the US graduate schools. If you are interested in a top quality MBA in the US, an undergrad degree from McGill or Queen’s would be your best bet. I knew two Queen’s grads who went on to Wharton, and one to Chicago.</p>
<p>hey Canuckguy…</p>
<p>listen… the prob im facing is that Michigan is too expensive… it offers very little amount of financial aid to international students… </p>
<p>McGill on the other hand is much cheaper… </p>
<p>so keeping the money in mind would i be at a disadvantage if i attend McGill?</p>
<p>^ McGill is a world class university. Even if Michigan has a slightly better reputation, if you can’t afford the fees it’s not worth burdening yourself(or your family). 100k in debt is a real and tangible disadvantage, whereas the small prestige difference will probably affect nothing.</p>
<p>Dragzta notes,“If i do my undergrad from McGill and hopefullr get 3.7 or more gpa”</p>
<p>Response: Trust me on this:Unlike that of high school, it is very hard to get a 3.7+ at any US univeristy. In fact, getting a 3.5+ is a feat.</p>
<p>For most universities, median GPA for grads is around 2.9-3.0. Roughly 3% graduate Summa Cum Laude, about 10% graduate Magna Cum Lauda ( which varies from a minimum of 3.5 to as high as 3.74) and about 20% graduate Cum Laude,which ordinarily requires a 3.25 , although some schools such as Ohio State Universities, have a minimum 3.6 GPA requirement for Cum Laude.</p>
<p>Putting it another way, generally 25% of the,non- ivy caliber schools’ graduating class, generally graduates Cum Laude or higher. If you filter out about 30-50% of the starting freshmen class who either drops out, transfers out or flunks out, this means that you have to be around the top 10% of your entering class to graduate Cum Laude or higher.</p>
<p>Ivy schools and a few others, however,skew this distribution since they might have as high as a 3.25- 3.3 average GPA.</p>