<p>[1] How many Canadians are accepted each year?</p>
<p>[2] Are Canadians treated the same as domestic applicants in regards to financial aid?</p>
<p>As for your first question, I don't know how many get accepted overall, but I know that about 5 got accepted ED. Myself and another girl from my school who is officially a Canadian citizen got accepted, but unfortunately she got no aid at all because Duke said that it doesn't give out need based financial aid to any non-US citizens. Sorry.</p>
<p>Permanent residents also receive need-based aid.</p>
<p>Duke does give out need-based financial aid to internationals, but only to a limited number (only the very best, I suppose).</p>
<p>From their website:</p>
<p>"Beginning with the class entering in August 2002, the university met full-demonstrated need for a limited number of international students applying for first-year admission. Because financial resources are limited, each year Duke expects to enroll 20-25 first-year foreign citizens with need-based financial aid."</p>
<p>May I know which secondary school you are attending?</p>
<p>By secondary do you mean High School? I go to Pope High (a public school) near Atlanta, GA. Just your regular public high school. If you want, you can check it out at popehigh.com</p>
<p>20-25 students is such a small number...that is such an amazingly small number.
With all the money Duke has...i always thought that they would be able to afford to give aid to more international students...i honestly think that is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Ridiculous is a slight exageration. It is important to remember the assistance Duke provides to thousands of students with financial aid every year. Honorable is a better word. I wonder how much money they put out for financial aid...</p>
<p>Duke is not as rich as you seem to think it is, Bahamain, trust me.</p>
<p>Apparently...i must be very misleaded about how 'rich' Duke is...if they were so rich, they would offer aid to more int'l students...dont they want diversity? 25 students from around the world wont bring them much geographical diversity.</p>
<p>Honestly though, the US is extremely diverse- Geographically and Culturally. Not only are people from all over the US different and unique, but there are so many immigrants, including myself, that make up a decent percentage of applicants. For example, visit the Minority Recruitment thread and see how many minorities Duke is currently recruiting. </p>
<p>On a different note, here are a few facts from the Financial Aid office:
--38% of the entering Class of 2007 received need-based aid
--36% of the entering Class of 2007 received packages that included University grant/scholarship funds
--2003-2004 Year Average Aid Award
Grant Funds $20,084
Deferred Loans $5,108
Work-Study Job $1,123 </p>
<p>since we are all such great mathematicians... lets have some fun and do some math... </p>
<p>lets assume that 1600 students enrolled in 2003 based on the 2003 Duke View Book statistics (page 2)...
so 38% of 1600 is 608 students that received need-based aid...
and the average aid is $26,315 = $20,084 + $5,108 + $1,123...
so $26,315 x 608 students = $15,999,520 in financial aid for just the entering class of 2003...
but just in case, lets round down to $13,000,000 and be a little less generous...
and then lets multiply that by 4 so we include the sophomores, juniors, and seniors...
then... $13,000,000 x 4 = $52,000,000 per year in financial aid alone... not including scholarships, etc.... ridiculous indeed, thats a lot of money! :)</p>
<p>someone HAD to be all technical.rolls eyes.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>I'm a duke applicant... what can I say? :)</p>
<p>lol...so am i...a bright one at that (i like to think)</p>
<p>Altho my chances are almost nill being an international financial aid applicant.</p>
<p>I notice that all of u guys are sooo old. im 16 and college bound, just as everyone else in my school...why are u guys so old?</p>
<p>because 17 or 18 is the normal age for seniors in high school in the US. why you are so young?</p>
<p>That would be weird: to be the only 16 yr old at college. Wow that is young. My borther is almost your age (15) and he just started high school.</p>
<p>Why am i so young? I dunno, i started senoir high when i was 13, started elementary school at age 5...so, now im 16 and graduating at 17.</p>
<p>Im sure i wont be the only 17 year old at college. Plus, it didnt seem to affect my grades or SAT's being so young.</p>
<p>Bahamain,</p>
<p>This was one of the more disappointing aspects of Duke for our family.
If you are applying need based, the following schools treat Canadians and Mexicans on a need-blind basis:</p>
<p>Harvard</p>
<p>Yale</p>
<p>Dartmouth</p>
<p>Princeton</p>
<p>Columbia</p>
<p>Penn</p>
<p>Brown</p>
<p>Williams</p>
<p>Amherst</p>
<p>Middlebury</p>
<p>Bowdoin</p>
<p>Wellesley</p>
<p>I believe there are more, but these schools all do.</p>
<p>Most of the elite schools see it as a good neighbor policy to treat Canadians and Mexicans in the way the European Union treats its member countries. Think of it as a humane companion to NAFTA (and less money grubbing).</p>
<p>I think Duke should rethink its exclusionist policy regarding its neighbors and show a little Southern Hospitality.</p>
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I think Duke should rethink its exclusionist policy regarding its neighbors and show a little Southern Hospitality.
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Trust me, I think the school wishes it could do that. But financially, not all schools are able to do that. And I don't think that Brown belongs on your list, I think it only considers US citizens/permanent residents on a need-blind basis. But anyways, the point is, I think Duke's goal is to change this and that it will change in the coming years. They just did an overhaul of the financial aid system and it is a very high priority of our new president.</p>