<p>Joethemole - a poli sci club? that sounds cool! What are you gonna be planning on talking about? And which school is this? If you're really into poli sci you should attend the High School Model United Nations Conference at the U of A (You'd have to apply with your school, if your school doesn't usually go, talk to your social teacher and ask him if he/she would send a delegation of students). I went there last year and it was wicked! The website is down right now (they're making a new one for next years conference) but check it out at <a href="http://www.ualberta.ca/%7Ehsmun/index%5B/url%5D">www.ualberta.ca/~hsmun/index</a> once it's back up and running.</p>
<p>I <3 poli sci! I'm thinking about studying it in uni, but not at the U of A (I'm from Calgary so... haha jk). I just really want to travel out of the province at least for uni. </p>
<p>I've been in MUN since grade 10 and it rocks. I did the U of C in 10th, but my school is the only one in the province I think that has been travelling to do others. 05-06 is going to be our third year attending SSUNS in Montreal and our second year attending HMCE in Paris. Last year I was on both trips, but this year I'm only doing SSUNS (3rd time!). We actually just started to be able to get credit for doing MUN... through a once a week "international politics 30" class. :)</p>
<p>A poli sci club would be really cool. I know that my school has presentations from people set up through the social department (thanks Mr.J!) and social justice clubs. We've had Gwynne Dyer (political journalist) as well as one of the Calgary MLA debates (Calgary Currie- with John Lord and Dave Taylor) come to our school. I don't think I would want Klein to come though cause he would get bashed by all the liberal IB kids (funny but also scary... you should have seen John Lord and his "plan" binder!).</p>
<p>ha! thx for recommandations. I go to churchill, but haven't really looked into model UN. however, the poly sci club is slightly different. Instead of modeling the UN, we are going to model the canadian parliament. We will also be doing fun stuff like political movies, real fundraisers, games (like risk) etc. but then we will probably also have to study Machiavelli or Marx to a certain extent.</p>
<p>but ya, i might check into that conference thingy... when i'm not so damn busy cramming sats</p>
<p>It sounds like fun. I should check into that at my school, maybe there would be some interest for it, but probably not a whole lot. I hope it works out for you! Keep me updated if you can once the school year starts joethemole, I'm really interested in how it works out for you!:)</p>
<p>i'll try my best! although i'll be completely innundated the first semester</p>
<p>Is it just me, or are Canadian universities a turn off due to their super-uncompetitiveness? I mean, its just not fair in my opinion, to go into an uni class when you had a 90+ avg in hs, when someone else had like 80.</p>
<p>i don't know but to me that sounds like- "why should I shop at the grocery store down my street when I have a Porsche and all the other cars parked there are Honda Civics"? In University, no one will really care what you're average was in high school-
However, you're entitled to you own opinion...</p>
<p>I think part of the reason Canadian universities are less selective than the American ones, is the fact that we simply have less people applying to university. Our country's population is drastically smaller than that of the US. Also, Canadian universities don't carry the same "name brand" prestige that the American ones do (think Harvard, MIT, Stanford, etc.). However, the quality is probably fairly equal in comparison.</p>
<p>pimp: all i'm saying is that american uni's are fairer. u work hard, u get into good uni</p>
<p>No. The Canadian schools are less selective because they accept more students- around 4500 students as incoming class. They are restricted by the government because they are publicly funded whereas most top schools in the US are private. As you can see, state schools are not as prestigious as the privates other than a select few.</p>
<p>Joethemole, it is fair because if we work hard, we go to american universities. The lazy scumbags will stay at the canadian ones :)</p>
<p>^ </p>
<p>lol. what can i say?</p>
<p>Hey, don't diss all the Canadian Universities. I'm not saying that all of them are great, I know that some of them are not up to the American Standart, but some are pretty good. The thought about a University in the US just seems nicer to us because we get to leave the country.... or at least that's what a lot of people think.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents</p>
<p>Can any Canadians in Ivies please post whether they are given financial aid .
My sister applied for FA but was rejected by the admission commitee.Wonders whether they are not that Need-blind at all.
Now she is in Third year US med school,all self-funding from my dad</p>
<p>Canadians will have a harder time getting financial aid at Ivies in the US primarily because they only have a certain amount of money they can allot to international students. The difference is that all the international students (UK, China, Japan and Canada etc) are all applying for the same money. It can vary by school but some can only afford to accept 10 international students on financial aid - this is why most international students in the US come from very wealthy families in general. </p>
<p>Some schools used to give what is called an ''admit-deny'' which is a letter of admission and no financial aid - which is essentially a deny. However a lot of schools have stopped doing this becuase it has started to hurt their acceptance rate. </p>
<p>I think it is wrong to really hate on the Canadian universities because they do accept a lot of students. The Canadian universities are ALL PUBLIC and have a service to the public sector to provide an education beyond high school. This is their social obligation. Private universities in the US are completely different and should not be compared... they are apples and oranges essentially. Private universities in US have their own endowments to play with and receive little or not funding from governments. If you wanted to compare Canadian universities to American Universities then you would have to look at the publics (UVA, UMich, UC-Berkeley, UWisconsin) and that would be a reasonable comparison.</p>
<p>It is naive and ignorant to misjudge the quality of higher education in Canada simply because of admission rates. A lot of the time, information at different schools is the same material - and it isn't as much what information is given (we all have access to texts taught at Penn and Yale etc) but it is what the students do with the information.</p>
<p>Some universities (ie Columbia) are need-blind to Canadian citizens, and put Canadians in a separate pool from other international students.</p>
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[quote=<a href="http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/finaid/how_to_apply/canadian.php%5DAdmission">http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/finaid/how_to_apply/canadian.php]
Admission</a> to Columbia is Need-Blind for all Canadian citizens. Columbia is committed to meeting the full demonstrated financial need of all Canadian citizens admitted as first-year students.
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At this time, financial aid for foreign students at Columbia College and The Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Sciences is very limited.
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<p>WealthOfInformation, what you said in the first paragraph is a big misconception</p>
<p>All Ivies except Brown offer Canadians need-blind admission.</p>
<p>Dooit,</p>
<p>I think you fail to recognize that most Canadians pay full-price to attend US institutions. Don't forget, when people apply to colleges, admissions counselors know where you are from (State or country) independent of whether they are need blind or not. They might not know your need, but they know where you are from and well-aware of the high price of matriculating foreign students on Fin.Aid.
I might recommed reading a lot about higher education and financial aid including these titles... they will help you understand a bit more:</p>
<p>The Student Aid Game</p>
<p>A is for Admission</p>
<p>Don't think that foriegn student aid is the same as US student aid. It's not.</p>
<p>Ughh, those schools explicitedly state that they offer need-blind admissions to Canadian Citizens(some mexican and permanent residents as well) but they DO NOT offer that opportunity to other international students. I KNOW that foreign aid is more competitive than for domestic students, not at those 7 Ivies, but rather at schools like Stanford and Caltech. </p>
<p>I've researched this issue from front to back(because I'm a Canadian Citizen) so I think I know all the relevant info.</p>
<p>what wealthofinfo saying is what they put on paper/info may not be what they practise.They may say need-blind,but in actual fact,need-based,the more need,the less likely that you are admitted.
My sister met a ethnic chinese girl at harvard from Forest Hill(suburb of toronto,million dollar homes)who denies that she is from Toronto!</p>
<p>anyone know if NOT applying for financial aid will help with the admission process in anyway?</p>