<p>dhl3, its going to be the easiest class you take..i honesty feel like its on the same level of easiness as geometry or algebra 1...all you need to do well is algebra skills...on top of that its interesting and its not dry at all..its actually really relevant to the world around you (as u probably already know) and iono i like it and i hate math so as long as your teacher is good, you'll like it too..</p>
<p>i've asked my question again and again and it seems that NO ONE is able to answer me directly. is my situation that complicated? it is simple as any other situation: i will complete tap and igetc by my second semestre with major requirements finished for history, but partially finished for art history (the other two not oferred at my ccc). both majors i like equally. which major as my first choice will increase my chances of admission?</p>
<p>now i heard that with tap, u are considered for ur second major when u are rejected for the first choice. that information is a little to complicated.</p>
<p>personally, my plan is to apply under history major (for which i completed everything) and immediately change my major to its cousin, art history.</p>
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personally, my plan is to apply under history major (for which i completed everything) and immediately change my major to its cousin, art history.
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<p>There you go. You've just answered your own question.</p>
<p>Sauron, i tried assist.org, and for some reason, it won't list the courses required for Art History major for ANY school. I don't know if i'm doing anything wrong, but can you please list the courses that are required for the major? And tell me which ones you have completed, and which ones your school does not offer.</p>
<p>Few things to remember:</p>
<p>1.) Have MOST of your major reqs completed. That means you only have 1 (at most 2 if there are lots of prereqs) course left to be completed by the Spring.</p>
<p>2.) If you do not complete your major req (except the courses that you must take at UCLA) by Spring, you will be rejected immediately regardless of your GPA.</p>
<p>Considering these two crucial facts, are you in anyway able to finish all the pre-reqs by this spring (whether you attend another school or do whatever possible)? If not, then don't even bother with Art History and apply for History.</p>
<p>"now i heard that with tap, u are considered for ur second major when u are rejected for the first choice. that information is a little to complicated."</p>
<p>I don't know how else I can explain how TAP works any better, but I'll try again anyway: For UCLA, TAP allows you to be REVIEWED/CONSIDERED for BOTH MAJORS. If you are accepted to your first major, then good for you. If you don't, you again get considered for the second major you put down on your application for UCLA. It's like sending out two applications: if the first don't succeed, the second gets another chance. Only TAP students get this privelage.</p>
<p>How did you manage to take "Introduction to Historical Practice" for History if your school does not offer it?</p>
<p>Chances for history at a 3.5 GPA with TAP and IGETC
History (3.49 avg. admitted GPA): Missing one requirement because it's not offered</p>
<p>MISSING TOTAL: 1 COURSES (Introduction to Historical Practice)
MORE IMPACTED
70-90% of entrance </p>
<p>Art History (3.48 avg. admitted GPA): According to you, missing two requirements, but according to assist.org there is none specified</p>
<p>MISSING TOTAL: 2 COURSES (unknown)
LESS IMPACTED (total applicants is about 1/4 of total amt. of history applicants)
65-90% chance of entrance</p>
<p>Both are at 90% because of TAP and IGETC. The low end of the percentage spectrum will depend on your essay. </p>
<p>CHANCES OF GETTING ADMITTED INTO UCLA
85%-100%</p>
<p>I would have said 100%...but I put 85% incase you slaughter your essay.</p>
<p>Correct me if i'm wrong but dhl3 I think the requirement of having all prereqs done only pertains to highly impacted majors (Bus-Econ, Econ, Mass Comm.). Plus in his case his school flat out doesn't offer it. I'm pretty sure UCLA doesn't mind students missing courses that do not exist at their school. </p>
<p>And yes, Sauron, it is complicated. I believe that the differences between your chances of getting into Art History or History is negligible. If you want to know how neglible, I posted it above.</p>
<p>Now please please PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASEEEEEEEE, read carefully. There are MANY factors at hand here, not just your simplistic summary. </p>
<p>What is it you don't understand? </p>
<p>The percentages shown above are as close to a direct answer as I can get, but i'm pretty sure you're just not understanding some of the things written here.</p>
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<p>Regardless of the major's impactedness, you are REQUIRED to complete ALL OF THE PRE-REQS (unless it is specified that it must be taken at UCLA) prior to your enrollment to UCLA.</p>
<p>I think what you are trying to say is that for the highly impacted major, it is best to finish all the pre-reqs by the FALL before you transfer, while for the less impacted majors, you are more flexible on spreading them out throughout the semesters (including the last spring semester). However, as far as the pre-req completion goes, ALL MAJORS are required to complete their pre-reqs by Spring.</p>
<p>Hrrrrm. Interesting... </p>
<p>What's the difference between getting accepted into UCLA as "Pre-History" as opposed to "History"? I thought the Pre-History status was created for students who are accepted into UCLA but they have yet to complete their History requirements.</p>
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I thought the Pre-History status was created for students who are accepted into UCLA but they have yet to complete their History requirements.
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<p>You are correct. However, those "uncompleted requirement courses" are the courses mentioned in the assist.org as "courses not articulated. Must be taken at UCLA". </p>
<p>The courses you have not completed, there is NO WAY you can fulfill that requirement unless you are accepted to UCLA and take it there. However, sauron's case is different. He has option to attend other cc to complete the courses.</p>
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<p>At UCLA, you won't be able to see "pre-history" and "history" together. It's either one or the other.</p>
<p>Pre-major usually means there are pre-reqs you MUST COMPLETE AT UCLA AND NOWHERE ELSE. Only after you complete those courses you are get to re-apply for the actual major this time (yes you must re-apply).</p>
<p>That's one thing that sux about pre-major, especially for heavily impacted major like BizEcon.</p>
<p>You'll be able to notice that for BizEcon, all the transfers are actually applying for PRE-business economics. This is because there are still two courses that you MUST TAKE AT UCLA besides the ones you took at cc. When you complete those two courses at UCLA, you apply for Business economics MAJOR, and you can get accepted or get rejected. If you get rejected, you get to become an econ major, not a bizecon. That's why some ppl call UCLA econ majors as "biz-econ rejects".</p>
<p>OHHHHHHHH...that makes sense. </p>
<p>I can't find Art History requirements anywhere, neverthless I e-mailed the UCLA adcom's out of curiosity/will post the response here.</p>
<p>requirements for art history: two western art courses (or ap art history with 4 or 5), two non-western art courses</p>
<p>i completed the two western courses through ap art history, the other two courses are not offered at my school</p>
<p>completed all the history requirements escept Intro to historical practice which is not articulated and thus "must be taken at ucla."</p>
<p>so, if ur tap certified then the rule rejecting-automatically-if-major-requirements-not-completed does not apply u since ur second major will be considered if ur first major is rehected because of little or small major requiremenets completed. got it.</p>
<p>do u send tap ceritification with transcript?
and when do u send ap scores? along with the transcript?
how will the school know if u completed igetc?</p>
<p>Just wait.
After you turn your application in, they will send you a letter requesting transcripts and other supplementary materials.
At my school, there's this check box in the Official Transcript request form that you check when you've completed the IGETC. Your school will then go through your transcript to make sure you've completed the IGETC, and then write a "IGETC certified" or something like that in your official transcript and send it to the school you are transferring to.</p>
<p>But I don't know how other schools works.</p>
<p>Good post! I am really impressed by these advices! By the way, I am a CC student who has just finished the first semester. I noticed that someone said that there are totally 3 essays. What does that mean? My counselor only tell me to write the personal statement at the time when I apply for transfer. So what the other two essays? Thanks everyone!</p>
<p>Do you have any advice for those who do not have the best gpa? I have a 3.1 and I am going to be a sophomore at UCSC. I really would like to transfer to UCSB (UCLA is my dream school, but I have given up hope on that one) but I am extremely nervous about the transfer process. I know I am in a very competitive major (Human Biology) and my chances are low, but I am still hopeful that I have a chance.
-Thank you! :)</p>