<p>Hey,</p>
<p>could anyone compare these two schools? This is what my decision has come down to..</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Carleton's better known than middlebury as prestigious college</p>
<p>but then if you're going to major in foreign languages, middlebury would be a better choice</p>
<p>There's no way that Carleton is better well known than Middlebury.</p>
<p>i think middlebury is a little more prestigious nowadays</p>
<p>I think neither is...I hadn't heard of either until my friend told me he was applying. Take your money to a better known state school.</p>
<p>midd is probably a bit preppier</p>
<p>I think the prestige would really depend on where you are. In New York at least, many adults have heard of Carleton, but most aren't aware of how good it is, whereas everyone has heard of and respects Midd. I would imagine that Carleton has more prestige in the midwest. </p>
<p>I'm afraid I can't compare the two, because I haven't visited Carleton. I would go with Midd; it's my first choice. I guess it depends on what you want to study.</p>
<p>As prestige is difficult apparently to pin down quantitatively, I don't think it should be a measure to discuss at length since it is much a question of overall image perception/personal rather than a science. For some people, prestige mean concepts like name recognition and that depends on the level of hearing memory for individuals.
I would pick Middlebury over Carleton more because of its location and setting with possibility of development of job search nearby in large cities of the Northeast.</p>
<p>Prestige is interesting to discuss further if you want.</p>
<p>carleton is better known among the academic world. i'm not going to carleton because for me, it's a little too "nerdy". but it has long held a high intellectual and academic reputation and many adults will know of it.</p>
<p>middlebury is the fastest rising school in terms of rank. 10 years ago middlebury wasn't even in the top 10 and barely in the top 20. the definition of prestige definatley includes looking at history..a school with a long-standing history</p>
<p>ten years ago Middlebury was ranked 8th. Get over the fact you were waitlisted and stop making stats up to disparage the school.</p>
<p>Cilyboi may be off on the dates but the truth is that Middlebury is a relative newbie to the ranks of prestigious LACs regardless of what its USNWR ranking is this year or was 10 years ago. It has to dig pretty deep to come up with a list of prominent alumni:</p>
<p>lol my dad taught at middlebury i don't hate the school at all. i might have been off in my stats but i know that middlebury hasn't always held its position the way carleton has, it's more of a new and uprising school compared to other longstanding institutions such as carleton</p>
<p>clearly you're mad that middlebury isn't as prestigious than carleton?</p>
<p>who even cares? go wherever you like, think whatever you want..a college education is what you will make of it</p>
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10 years ago middlebury wasn't even in the top 10 and barely in the top 20. the definition of prestige definatley includes looking at history..a school with a long-standing history
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<p>The editors of Newsweek seem to think that Middlebury was doing just fine "a generation ago." </p>
<p>Not that their opinion is any more valuable than yours...</p>
<p>Yeah, the editors of Newsweek are really off in this particular article. For example they mention Bowdoin as a "beneficiary of the boom in top students," and then lists Middlebury as a long-standing top school. Middlebury was a safety school for Bowdoin applicants 15 years ago, and has maintained a much higher level of prestige over the last 200 years (although recently Midd has caught up). And Bates was not listed as a long-standing or a "new ivy," whereas Kenyon and Colby were. Their process of selecting these "new ivies" (which is a bad term because some non-ivies are considered superior to some ivies anyway) had many flaws. They messed up, oh well, people who care know better anyway.
As to your decision, think about what you want to study and what kinds of kids you want to be around. Although Carleton has more overall prestige and a solid history, Midd is def. on par with Carleton today and will open just as many doors. They are both awesome schools and you're lucky to make this decision.</p>
<p>"midd was a safety school for Bowdoin applicants 15 years ago."</p>
<p>"Carleton has more overall prestige and solid history."</p>
<p>Prove it. </p>
<p>No one has offered any concrete evidence to back these highly subjective claims.</p>
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midd was a safety school for Bowdoin applicants 15 years ago."</p>
<p>"Carleton has more overall prestige and solid history."</p>
<p>Prove it. </p>
<p>No one has offered any concrete evidence to back these highly subjective claims.
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<p>US News and World Report ratings for 1985:</p>
<h1>4 - Carleton</h1>
<h1>10 - Bowdoin</h1>
<p>not ranked - Middlebury</p>
<p>And all you have to do is look at the illustrious alums produced by Bowdoin versus those produced by the much bigger Middelbury:</p>
<p>Bowdoin: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bowdoin_College_people%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bowdoin_College_people</a></p>
<p>Middlebury: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlebury_College#Prominent_alumni%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlebury_College#Prominent_alumni</a></p>
<p>bowdoin was probably more prestigious in the 1800s and early-mid 20th century than it is now, although it is still very strong. I just think it was really dumb of Newsweek to mention Middlebury as a long-standing "ivy" and then put Bowdoin as a "new ivy," when it should be the other way around.<br>
In the world of academics Carleton is very well regarded, as is Middlebury recently (although I have trouble convincing my older relatives that Middlebury is actually hard to get into-like as hard as bowdoin- and not just the ClubMidd it was 50 years ago). Yeah, as mentioned, Carleton seems to have a more nerdy student body, very liberal, but of course really nice kids. Midd. is also very liberal but the students I know are a little moe edgey -in tune-with-the-times, is terms of "what's cool." But also, really nice people-- and probably more laid back than, say, bowdoin or dartmouth. Visit if you can, good luck.</p>
<p>lets see. i've lived in middlebury for 10+ years, my father taught there, i know the founder of several departments (yes, founder..not just chair, founders who are currently chairs). </p>
<p>i don't care about this enough to do research, so i was just using rough estimations. torasee has provided the stats if you want. basically, i was saying middlebury wasn't as "long-standing" as other institutions like Carleton.</p>
<p>middlebury is amazing NOW, it has clearly caught up to all these other schools that have clearly been around. so if you compare them, most people will look at history and see how long these other colleges have been around.</p>
<p>middlebury is a "new and uprising" school, and if you think it's this college thats considered a "grandfather" of education like other schools mentioned. and if you thought it was..you are seriously mistaken.</p>
<p>i'd have to say bowdoin is the most laid back out of the three..carleton i agree with everything you said exactly aloutak. as for middlebury..whatever i've been stuck inside this little town way too long to even care..i just want to get out.</p>