Case Western Reserve University (my acceptance and size of school) + School Suggestions?

Hello! So I will be going into my senior year of high school this coming week, and I am looking at CWRU for biochem. What are my chances of acceptance (EA) having a 32 ACT (34 superscore), 1450 SAT (710 M and 740 W), 3.86UW GPA, 4.27 W GPA, having 100+ hours of hospital volunteer hours, debate club for 2 years, a volunteer club for 4 years, leadership position in a medical club for 2 years (in the club for 3 years), choir participation for 4+ years? I will have taken 9 AP classes by the time I graduate. I don’t have a normal job, but I babysit weekly (for the past 3 years) and I have been walking a elderly/disabled neighbor’s dog for 4 years.

Also, I have visited UIUC and the size of the school seems to fit me well, but I am starting to panic because I though CWRU was my dream school, although it is now seeming too small. I am going to visit the school in September, but to other people who have visited or attended CWRU, will I be able to interact with lots of people? Does the campus feel large because you are in Cleveland, or is it a small feeling?

Because I live in Illinois, I would like to stay close (or closer :wink: ) to home, so anything west of Minnesota is OUT!! I am looking for somewhere that isn’t too expensive, as my parents will pay for $35,000 a year. Does anyone have any school suggestions??? My list includes U Minn Twin Cities, IU Bloomington, UIUC, Purdue, Miami Univeristy (Ohio), CWRU, maybe Tulane, and William and Mary.

Thank you so much in advance!!!

The cost of attendance at CWRU is $65000. It sounds like you are looking for at least $30,000 in aid. That might happen…and it might not.

Have you run their net price calculator?

If you apply ED1 you have a very decent chance. My guess is RD would be low.

Case has 100% need based grant, so depending on how much your parents make, they fill the rest.

I visited Case twice and really like the school, except the very urban environment. Please visit to see if it is for you.

Good luck to you.

Daughter’s friend with slightly higher stats was wait listed at Case in RD.

Case seems very different than the other schools on your list. Have you thought of U. of WI?

Case Western meets 100%of need as of the fall 2017. However, it’s not all grant aid. The school does package loans and work study in their need based awards.

The OP says parents will pay about $35000 a year…but he doesn’t say if that is their EFC, or net cost per Net Price Calculator. It’s very possible that the family contribution the school calculates will be higher than what the family feels they can contribute.

This OP needs to do the net price calculator for CWRU. See what the net price will be.

Hmmm…why happened to the edit wheel??

@mm1572019 you are from Illinois and you have a number of OOS public universities on your list, none of which guarantee to meet full need for all accepted students. As an OOS student your costs will be higher than for instate. Most public universities don’t cover the differential between in and out of state tuition costs for OOS students when awarding aid.

Again…do the net price calculators!

On the scale of Deny - Waitlist- Admit, I think you have a Waitlist to Admit chance of being admitted.
Join us over in http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/case-western-reserve-university/ if you have more questions.
Look at some recent “results” threads, e.g. http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/case-western-reserve-university/1869453-cwru-class-of-2020-rd-results-thread.html and see how you stack up and what merit scholarships were offered.

I have thought of UW Madison, but I did not like the feel of the campus at all. Thanks for your suggestions!

@Kadel1023 How was the campus? Is it spread out or just concentrated between MLKJ Drive and Adelbert Rd? Thanks!

Hi @Kadel1023 , do you think if I apply EA, I will still have a decent chance?

Case is very much an urban campus. It is in the University Circle neighborhood adjacent to the museums, botanic gardens, Severance Hall (home of the Cleveland Symphony) and very close to Little Italy. The campus if pretty concentrated but again, lots of public spaces abutting campus.

You should visit the campus. If you really like it then you should do ED, i think that is where you should get in. EA not too confident, but still very much in play.

I didn’t get a small school feeling at CWRU. With its urban location and student size, it felt more like a large school. That is until you see its football “stadium”.

Pitt isn’t a lot farther away than Case. It’s great for biochem; your 1450 would qualify you for the Honors College; and the size of the student body is about halfway between UIUC’s and CWRU’s. Potentially a best-of-both-worlds option if you get merit off the OOS-public sticker price. (And it’s rolling admissions so you can find out early if you apply early.) But I also agree that CWRU might not feel too small; visit and form your own impression, if it’s looking like a financially viable option.

Students I know (from the school where I work and elsewhere) who consider CW also look at Pitt and the University of Rochester. Which one of the three they end up choosing often comes down to finances or if they like urban (CW and Pitt) or an urban “bubble” campus (true campus in a city as is U Rochester). Pitt is larger than the other two.

I’d consider running the Net Price Calculators for all three and if they end up in your range, consider visiting because students come back from a visit knowing “yes, no, or #x on my list.” That’s good info to have prior to applying.

I haven’t actually heard anyone say that CW or URoc is too small for them. Some prefer the sports of Pitt, but that’s because Pitt actually has a major sport atmosphere and the other two don’t. It has nothing to do with size.

Because of your choice of major and your GPA match (WPI average HS GPA 3.86 unweighted) , you might want to take a look at WPI. They have been been showing a strong interest of balancing out the women to men ratio in this school for some time and are approaching 50% with the entering class. Combine this with geographic distribution and the very recent, unexpected gift of $18,000,000 (anonymous alumnus) and they may offer decent FA to a deserving student from outside of New England. This is a very solid and somewhat unconventional program at the center of biomedical research in the Boston/Worcester area.

For program overview see https://www.wpi.edu/project-based-learning/wpi-plan

For biochemistry research see https://www.wpi.edu/academics/departments/biology-biotechnology/research

Also look into the biomedical field where they have developed and now grow organ tissue (tissue engineering). See https://www.wpi.edu/academics/departments/biomedical-engineering/research

Chemical engineering is also very involved in biochemistry and biomedical engineering. See Prof Robert’s observations @ https://www.wpi.edu/people/faculty/scroberts

WPI believes learning is interdisciplinary!

The university is focused on the entire life sciences area.

The city of Worcester is a major biomedical research Center and home to The U. Mass Medical School. WPI is jointly involved with these centers and with the U Mass medical school. All students work on research in their major and many continue with funded summer research.

Students are very involved in a wide range of activities. There are over 4,000 undergraduate students and about 60% of the undergraduates participate in sports (only 18% varsity). Crew is traditionally the strongest. It is a division III university. They do not broadcast WPI sports on television.

Off campus and overseas studies are a major event at WPI and are available to students at no additional cost. More than 50% participate in 46 WPI project centers around the world. See https://www.wpi.edu/project-based-learning/global-project-program

What do you enjoy doing outside of your coursework?

WPI, class of '67

@mm1572019 Think you have a decent chance if you apply EA/ED for CW. RD will be challenging for most CW applicants. Your GPA stats are strong, SAT on the medium side… ACT (34) is decent. Make sure the main common app essay sings for CW, that’s your only chance to make a statement and set yourself apart from others. Have you done some EC that you have started on your own, if so, make sure you highlighted those. Our family has visited many schools in past few yrs, and increasingly, AOs are looking for kiddos with ECs that highlight the applicant’s self initiatives (some inventions, some self-starting organization, self-run biz etc etc…). The garden varieties of volunteering hours, or officer positions in clubs are being way less a pull vs the past. I would recommend you to run the NPC for Case as it provides a pretty accurate picture on the level (and kind) of aid you can expect should you get in. Visit the campus. CWRU is nowhere as big as the typical state flagship, but it has everything concentrated in a small area - shops, restaurants. museums, music hall, botanical garden - AND Hospitals (very important if you wanna do premed). University Circle is practically an area you can find everything you need/expect. The one thing CW is not known for is big time sports, like football or basketball. Check it out, schedule an interview on campus during the visit if possible. JMHO.

Pitt is just down the road from me, and the campus feel is similar to Case, but bigger.

Dont be surprised how selective Pitt may be for anything medical or engineering may be. Especially out of state. I would not call Pitt a shoe in just yet, or how affordable it may be. Run the net price calc.

Good luck to you.

However if you prefer a more balanced male/female ration, CWRU is more 50/50.