So a friend of mine had her cell phone go off and the proctor considered it to be cheating.
She’s afraid that it’ll cause her to get a 0 or even worse, an invalidation or some kind of thing to say that she was caught “cheating” during the test.
Will that cause UCD to rescind her admission? She sent in her SIR and she’s getting worried.
They’re going to investigate whether or not she was cheating, but it’s stupid because he brother just called to get a ride home. This was during the German AP test btw.
<p>Even if you cheat on an AP, unless your school suspends you or otherwise disciplines you/independently tells your college, the only punishment that I'm aware of is score cancellation (probably of just the AP test in question but possibly of other grades... the AP people reserve just about every right they can in administering the tests). Given the circumstances, I can't imagine that anything worse than simply not getting an AP score for the German test would happen.</p>
<p>On a related note, WHY WOUDLN"T YOU TURN OFF YOUR PHONE WHEN THE PROCTOR'S ALL MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT CELL PHONES? (Or, I should say, are supposed to make a big deal about cell phones)</p>
<p>There was a fire drill during the AP test at my child's school. All the kids went outside and were not supervised. Rumors that the test was discussed circulated quickly. The kids quickly became confused and defensive and friendships suffered. The following year, the AP people lost one of the exams and the whole class had to take it over, in August - most of them opted not to b/c it was so late. Think they got a refund? I think the AP people need to get their acts together. If they don't want kids to have cell phones, it's prettyeasy to limit what they can bring in the room to a couple of pencils and a calculator. All these issues arise out of poor procedures instituted by the AP testing service. You're the consumer and you're the one who put in the work. It's about time the AP testers start treating students, their only consumer base, with respect. Maybe I will send them a nasty note just for the heck of it. We paid hundreds of dollars for the privilege of taking these tests with no guarantee that it will have any payback whatsoever. I would pitch a holy fit if this was my kid and raise hell about defamation of character. . How dare they?</p>
<p>Can't address your situation, mcdeb - way out of the ordinary to be sure....but back to the OP....after all the standardized testing these kids go through by the time they are seniors - can't we expect some common sense before going into the test?? They all know by now what is allowed into testing sites - pretty much what you said - a couple pencils and maybe a calculator.</p>
<p>Either turn the phone off or leave it in the car...you know you can't use it during the next couple of hours...and why didn't she and the brother communicate better before the test, so he'd know to call someone else for a ride?? Seems sure she didn't cheat, but the phone ringing unexpectedly and probable subsequent discussion between her and proctor about it caused unneeded disruption for others in the room still testing.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt this will affect her admission...if AP does disqualify her, a note to admissions should be enough to counter...it just means she won't get advanced standing for that subject only, assuming the school awards anything for that particular test.</p>
<p>obviously, cell phones may be annoying but everybody forgets to shut them off once in awhile. i dont think cheating should be constituted as your cell phone ringing.....</p>
<p>Retroactive advice is just useless. </p>
<p>My point was that other testing services have better procedures in place.</p>
<p>sammie, I thought the whole class has to retake the exam if one person's cell phone go off?</p>
<p>Yeah, she's gonna get thrown out of UCD because her brother called her for a ride home. What a dumb question.</p>
<p>Some proctors leave something to be desired. Two years ago, my son's class nearly had an AP exam invalidated because the proctor had them take an unauthorized break. Apparently, some students said that they just had a break recently and weren't supposed to have another one, but the proctor dismissed them anyway. It was a big deal with reprimands, etc..</p>
<p>Another incident at a different testing location involved an SAT exam where a number of proctors reported late and the test began 45 minutes later that scheduled! Unbelievable! </p>
<p>Many proctors must either be ill-informed or just not really care about doing a good job!</p>
<p>i had my SAT cancelled cuz we started at after 10:00 but the proctor was SOOOO dumb... we didnt get out until 2:30. she was permanently banned from proctoring standarized tests. it was such a mess everybody was complaining and we all just sat around clueless to what was going on.</p>
<p>um..when I took the AP test, they COLLECTED our cell phones. o_0</p>
<p>Proctors were late at my son's SAT, also. When it came time for pick-up, the parking lot was crowded with parents trying to figure out why no one was exiting the building and what could possibly have gone wrong. This was the old SAT. It was supposed to start at 8. The first students weren't released until about 12:30. </p>
<p>Back to the OP's question... just follow instructions and leave the cell phones at home. Proctors shouldn't be required to distinguish between a brother's call for a ride and a friend's call to pass along information/answers to the exam.</p>
<p>That's bad because I heard they send a letter to all the colleges you apply to and say that you cheated in an AP</p>
<p>AP testing is conducted by the school, not College Board (at least here in California most of the time). The school is in charge of administering the test and any screw ups can be attributed to them. Don't blame ETS because a school administration can do their job.</p>
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Many proctors must either be ill-informed or just not really care about doing a good job!"</p>
<p>Very true... when I took the SAT I a year ago, they tried to bar me from using my TI-89. They were about to confiscate it when they finally let me go to the principal (who doesn't like me) who finally read the rules (three or four times over, he couldn't believe I was right) and wrote a note saying that I could use my 89. Apparently, he had briefed all the teachers on how 89's weren't allowed for the SATs, which is absolutely unbelieveable given the number of kids at my school who use them.</p>
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<p>sorry, I have no cell sympathy or empathy since the rules are clearly stated on CB's website. My S knew that he could not bring a cell phone in, so he left it home.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/exday.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/exday.html</a></p>
<p>Yup.</p>
<p>The tests are adminstered by the school. Here, they are parents that are part of some school committee.</p>
<p>Anyways... we all got heads up. Our AP teachers explicitly said that testing integrity is going to be enforced. No cell phones even permitted, even if it's silent or off. During the testing, the proctors told us that even if they find that we possess a phone (whether it be in a pocket or bag) will result in invalidation. They clearly stated that if we had one, it should be brought to the front table, turned off, and have an AP Number label attached to it.</p>
<p>she's just worried about getting rescinded, i only did this so she could feel better, wouldn't you get worried if you could supposedly have a "cheating" sent to your school?</p>
<p>and she did turn off her cell phone, right before because she talked to her bf right before the test. </p>
<p>but thanks for some of the answers.</p>
<p>oh btw, yes they did collect cell phones and all that such, and yes we knew that we didn't have to have cell phones. i'm not asking for any sympathy, i'm asking if she will or will not get rescinded.</p>