caught "cheating" HELP

<p>ok so I was on the track of getting a C in the class.</p>

<p>at the end of the semester, i was surprised to get an F, emailed the professor why and he said i got an F because it appears i copied most of the solutions of the homework from a solutions manual, which has step by step procedures on how to do the homework.</p>

<p>My argument to him was that I never directly copied the homework, that I worked alongside with the solutions manual after trying it by myself.</p>

<p>Does anyone have any suggestions?</p>

<p>talk to the teacher - alot. be hoenst and say how much this screws you</p>

<p>that doesn't work 90% of the time... i would DEFINETLY fight it though... i had a similar situation... mine was unfortunate</p>

<p>talk to the principal. pnly he can FORCE the teacher to reverse the grades. You need to present your case to the administration, and tell them how this will quash your chances at a good university</p>

<p>I wouldn't talk about how this will kill your college chances. That will only make you look like a college whore, not someone who genuinely cares about academic honesty. Stay away from college, be completely honest, be sad...</p>

<p>i am in college, not high school</p>

<p>I disagree with the poster who advised you to "force" your teacher into changing. If you can persuade a principal, who hardly even knows you, to MAKE a teacher change his mind, why not use that time and effort talking to the teacher himself?</p>

<p>I would go to the teacher, either alone or with parents, and present your cause calmly and maturely. Focus not on "ohmygodhowwilligetintocollege," but on how to improve for the future. Tell them what happened and maybe why it happened. </p>

<p>For example, that copying from the solutions manual was the last thing on your mind, and that you would never purposely sabotoge your education by faking your work. The solutions manual really helped you understand the material (cite specific examples maybe of problems where a step-by-step description of the material helped you grasp a problem) and that working next to it helped build your confidence in those problems. </p>

<p>Admit that perhaps in retrospect doing it all by yourself might have helped you better in some circumstances, but at the moment you really thought you were doing the right thing for yourself in that class. And that, maybe, you wish the teacher had come to you earlier to tell you you were giving the impression of copying, so you could have fixed it without causing him so much trouble.</p>

<p>Don't be defensive when you talk to him. Teachers like students that are determined to learn the material, who appreciate the work they've done for them, and who are receptive to advice. Ask him how you can improve.</p>

<p>Building your relationship with your teacher and proving that you are an upstanding student is far more effective than trying to make him do something he doesn't want to do.</p>

<p>If that doesn't work, is there a counselor at your school who you could talk to and who could act as a middleman? They wouldn't FORCE the teacher to do stuff but they could explain your situation better maybe.</p>

<p>Hope I was helpful. Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>Wrong forum?</p>

<p>Well i think it is cheating if you aren't supposed to have the solutions manual. Something like that similarly happened at my school. The solutions manual was designed for only the teachers to have</p>

<p>its amazing that you can work alongside a book...do perfect work in order like the book...and still only earn a C!
I mean why didnt you just give out the book's step by step answers for the test...wait DID YOU WRITE THEBOOK??
unless you wrote the book ur going to have a hard time convincing the teacher you know the answers step by step as you compared them with the book. esp bc in math there are many routes to the same answer.</p>

<p>What school do you go to by the way</p>