<p>First of all, I already know I am in very big trouble for doing this, and I understand what I did was really stupid (even though I did not know it was considered cheating at the time). If you're going to insult me, please don't, and just don't post at all. If you're willing to read this and try to answer my questions, it would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I am a freshman at college and I took a computer science course. I worked with another person on 1 or 2 projects. For those projects we went to the same TA in office hours who told the same ideas of how to write the project. We talked to each other on how to write the project, but never wrote it in front of each other at the same time. Later we compared the correctness of our projects and saw that each of us had several different parts that work better. We changed those sections. In the end, one of our projects look almost the same and one section of the other project.</p>
<p>I have been informed that I will be speaking to the Dean. I re-read the agreement, and realized what I did was cheating. I also read that most cheating incidents will usually end in suspension or dismissal. This is my first offense. What is most likely a reasonable punishment I will be receiving? If I am suspended, I know it's virtually impossible to get into graduate school, but is it true that absolutely no graduate schools will ever accept me? What are my chances of actually getting dismissed? Is there even a slim chance that I would only receive a failing grade (marked on transcript) for the course?</p>
<p>Just be honest. You're probably going to get suspended/kicked out but you have a better chance of not getting either if you are honest. In the end I think you're screwed however. As for graduate school I honestly have no clue, maybe someone else can help. </p>
<p>Gluck getting flamed by everyone here. Unfortunately they all think they are mother/father figures and you will be lectured to no end.</p>
<p>58 views, you're the only reply so far. If we wanted to flame him we would have done it by now..not all of us here thinks we're mother/father figures :rolleyes: so speak for yourself in the future</p>
<p>Just be honest like the above said..they might see that you didn't realize what you did was considered cheating until after, and be more lenient on you</p>
<p>Be honest and come clean. If you really want to lessen the punishment, admit that you were wrong and that it will never happen again. Say that you will accept any punishment handed out and apologize profusely.</p>
<p>i dont know if they would accept that you didn't know it was cheating, since in cs they made us sign that sheet at the beginning saying we understood the cheating policy</p>
<p>I guess there's nothing else to tell you. All I can say is that you pray things will turn out well. As for graduate schools, try posting your question in the Graduate School forum. Good luck, and keep us updated. </p>
<p>I do wonder how you two got caught. I mean I do understand if it's a small size CS class, but CS 31 is huge, right? IDK, just wondering.</p>
<p>I think they had the same TA. Even with different TAs you can't be sure, but when one has to grade like ~30 projects, the ones that are virtually identical are bound to raise concern.</p>
<p>It sounds like what happened was a misunderstanding, a mistake. I agree with the above posts about honesty, but be sure to reinforce the fact that you are truly sorry and that you misunderstood.</p>
<p>We didn't have the same comments, and we don't have the same TA. Near the end of the quarter, I overheard a TA talking about how there's a program that looks through every project in the class and finds similarities. I guess they didn't run the program until the end of the quarter.</p>
<p>Was working together encouraged in this class? Do you have copies of your work before you compared it to your classmate's? It sounds like the assignment concerned was from much earlier in the class, so maybe you don't still have old versions, but it might help to show that you both DID work independently and then worked JOINTLY at the end. If you didn't realize that you were supposed to be working independently, it might help to show that you weren't trying to cheat. You often DO learn more by working together, which is what it sounds like you were doing, in my opinion.</p>
<p>You will most likely not get dismissed or have anything affixed to your record, other than temporarily. Go in, be honest, and make amends. You will probably have to face a disciplinary board and be put on some sort of probation. Then, you will have to be very careful in the future. You are not alone. Students make mistakes all of the time. Good luck.</p>
<p>When you go to the Dean, he/she will talk about the situation, ask you some questions, he/she will look at your grades (no idea why, but that's what happened to my cousin) and you'll end up with serving a four years university probation. Sort of like a warning... and if you cheat/steal/fight on campus during the four years, you'll be suspended/expelled.</p>