<p>My interest isn't with arguing with you, ijflexi. My interest is clearing up the points and learning so we can all make this board a better place.</p>
<p>She was stating there should be a forum for just CCC/UC people OR a faq for just CCC/UC people. So--there could be a FAQ for us while new or difficult questions could be addressed in the regular forum.</p>
<p>If I have a different perspective on something already outlined in an FAQ, how does that help anyone???</p>
<p>I try and stay away from FAQ's because they provide only FOA'S Frequently Offered Answer's. Not the best Answer. </p>
<p>Gabe! We are College students, we should embrace the dicsussion aspect even if it becomes redundant. </p>
<p>As for the people who dislike seeing the same questions posted over and over, dont click the link!!! its as simple as that.</p>
<p>I have to say you are quite wrong on this; I say that especially as someone who has been on this board for awhile now.</p>
<p>Let me give you an example:</p>
<p>Question:
OMG IM GOING TO HAVE 85 UNITS completed; I've gone to 2 different cccs; does that mean I'll be rejected!?!?!?</p>
<p>Answer:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. There is no unit limitation if all credits have been completed at CA community colleges.</p>
<p>This question has been asked at least seven or eight times. The answers are objective and obvious, but the discussion has caused more confusion than anything.</p>
<p>Another:</p>
<p>Question: What is the average GPA of admits to ____ major at ___.</p>
<p>Answer: usually easily available from various school websites.</p>
<p>Another:</p>
<p>Question: OMG OMG, do UCLA and Berkeley work together to admit students to only one or the other?!?!?!!</p>
<p>Answer: NO NO NO NO NO NO; impossible.</p>
<p>I could go on and on...</p>
<p>The point is that many questions have simple, objective answers that require no discussion. These would be included in a FAQ.</p>
<p>First of all Question number one.. your answer is wrong. </p>
<p>Question number 2 if I someone that WAS admitted to that particular college, for that specific MAJOR, then I could ofer my experience to the person asking the question. Which would prove to be much more useful to the person.</p>
<p>Under your idea... the person would post the question and you or someone like you would respond with........</p>
<p>READ THE FRICKIN FAQ NOOB!!!!!!</p>
<p>there are no simple questions with objective answeres when it comes to college transfers.... I know that by talking to REAL people with different experiences and different stats etc its given me MORE confidence, espeically more than I could have aquired form reading an FAQ. And if that takes too much room, or annoys you or other people than I think you need to re-evaluate your reasons for participating here.</p>
<p>"First of all Question number one.. your answer is wrong."</p>
<p>Question 1 reads:
"NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. There is no unit limitation if all credits have been completed at CA community colleges."</p>
<p>That seems right to me, not sure where you got it's wrong. The UC's will limit how many of your units count (you must complete a certain amount of units at your UC to get a degree) but there are people last year who made the transfer with over 100 units completed.</p>
<p>The answer is wrong because it does not provide enough information. No the person will not be rejected soley upon the amount of units completed, however a Uni will be very curious as to why you have so many completed and therefore a strategy should be put in place. Something a FAQ could not provide.</p>
<p>Ijflexi, you are really the perfect example of why discussion leads to problems. It is quite apparent that after you assumed I was only posting to refute you, you have decided to post only to refute me.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no question about the answer to #1. If you have information that refutes it, it is your responsibility to bring it to the table. That is what would take place during the construction of a FAQ. </p>
<p>Furthermore, if a person was looking for anecdotes they could always post on the discussion board (asking for them) and find them. However, the vast majority of this board agrees that statistics are far more useful than anecdotes, especially considering this board is not representative of most transfer applicants or admits. Past questions about STATS have been answered with links to STATS, over and over again. There's no need for continuous discussion questions.</p>
<p>Finally, you are again entirely wrong when you stated, "[T]here are no simple questions with objective answeres (sic) when it comes to college transfers." There are plenty of them--which is why there are already many FAQs addressing this. The UC transfer guide is called "Answers for Transfers"! What a coincidence! </p>
<p>Do CA community college transfers have priority when it comes to transferring to UCs?
Yes.</p>
<p>How many units do you need to transfer as a junior?
60.</p>
<p>Questions about IGETC, alternatives, minimum requirements, etc. etc. </p>
<p>The fact is, it's quite obvious you are only trying to refute me at this point. That's because we both actually agree. Anecdotes are interesting and can obviously be a part of the discussion board, regarldess of whether or not there is a FAQ. And there will always be a place for discussion of questions that can't be addressed with a simple answer.</p>
<p>The FAQ would only serve to answer the typical questions people have quickly and easily.</p>
<p>"The answer is wrong because it does not provide enough information. No the person will not be rejected soley upon the amount of units completed, however a Uni will be very curious as to why you have so many completed and therefore a strategy should be put in place."</p>
<p>The question was simple--and was represented just as it has been presented many times in the past. "WILL I BE REJECTED BECAUSE OF..." was the question. The answer is no. A FAQ can easily include more explanation as well--such as the fact that 70 units will count for graduation credit, while the rest will only count for subject credit.</p>
<p>Your point about the "Uni being curious" is horrible for anyone to read because it is only conjecture with no backup of any kind.</p>
<p>Let me add that transfer advisors hate hearing these questions over and over because so many students are misled by conjecture or hearsay.</p>
<p>I wouldnt inflate your ego that big kiddo.... this is nothing personal its for the benefit of everyone.</p>
<p>Do CA community college transfers have priority when it comes to transferring to UCs?
Yes.</p>
<p>But Why?</p>
<p>ETC..</p>
<p>All of your examples are questions that honestly and truly do require discussion.</p>
<p>You used the Answers for Transfers as an example.... so why does this board exist. And why does the MAJORITY of the board discuss CCC's and UC'S?? If all the CCC and UC kids have all these resources?? Like answers for transfers?</p>
<p>Obviously the information available through those resources is not adequate..thus THE TRANSFER FORUM!!!</p>
<p>An FAQ is too impersonal, and actually could be counterproductive. It could easily mislead someone.</p>
<p>"How many units do you need to transfer as a junior"</p>
<p>"60"</p>
<p>Reader:" Ok I'll go take some art classes and some fun online classes oh and alot of sports and ill get my 60units and transfer!!" THANKS!!</p>
<p>the obvious benefit of having discusssions even if they are often redundant are outweighs the inconvenience you are subjected to.</p>
<p>What I proived people and more importantly what I have been provided is more than anecdotal, its been very helpful and imporant and I thank all the people that have provided it to me.</p>
<p>Oh so I need to quote any and all sources when referring to something I know to be fact. Wow. Its well known that if you are applying to transfer to a University, with over 80 credits, the University would be curious as to why you had not attempted to transfer before. </p>
<p>An example would be if a person was not prepared for that kind of question. </p>
<p>Their answer may be something like; " I did not feel prepared at that time to transfer..etc" </p>
<p>There are an infinite amont of possibilities..why not be careful why not get the RIGHT advice to the people who need it?</p>
<p>Further more.. The reason a person asks a question is not to KNOW the answer, but rather in the context of this board it is to GAIN something from the answer. </p>
<p>A simple NO. Gives nothing. A NO along with an explanation and additional information can and does help people.</p>
<p>First off, I knew you would bring this up:</p>
<p>"You used the Answers for Transfers as an example.... so why does this board exist. And why does the MAJORITY of the board discuss CCC's and UC'S?? If all the CCC and UC kids have all these resources?? Like answers for transfers?</p>
<p>Obviously the information available through those resources is not adequate..thus THE TRANSFER FORUM!!!"</p>
<p>This inference is incorrect. Most people who ask the questions are simply uninformed; they have not read the booklet. </p>
<p>Secondly,</p>
<p>"Reader:" Ok I'll go take some art classes and some fun online classes oh and alot of sports and ill get my 60units and transfer!!" THANKS!!"</p>
<p>Nothing in that possible FAQ answer logically leads to that response. If the reader is illogical and comes up with a totally crazy interpetation, so be it. That can always happen.</p>
<p>And again, this is hillarious; this argument is useless. If people need more clarification from a FAQ they would still be able to use the discussion board! Some people would have their question sufficiently answered from the FAQ and not use the discussion board, while others may get more of a background understanding by reading the FAQ before posting.</p>
<p>Finally, usually these questions lead to repeats of discussions. The same points are made with the same evidence. A question may warrant discussion, but not the identical discussion taking place 10 times. That's why a FAQ (with explanation as I explained) could be very helpful.</p>
<p>"A simple NO. Gives nothing. A NO along with an explanation and additional information can and does help people."</p>
<p>The FAQ would obviously provide explanation and information as I explained multiple times. I think this argument deserves a rest as we both agree.</p>
<p>Then go make a a FAQ. </p>
<p>There is somethign to be learned by adressing certain questions more than once. And like I said before if you get annyoed dont click on their subject lines. Leave is illogical crazies to ourselves. </p>
<p>I for one dont mind helping a person out even if their question is illogical or crazy.</p>
<p>It would be a disservice not to help them. But go make your FAQ.</p>
<p>ijflexi:
"There is somethign to be learned by adressing certain questions more than once. And like I said before if you get annyoed dont click on their subject lines. Leave is illogical crazies to ourselves.</p>
<p>I suggested the FAQ originally because I noticed that I was reading many of the same (I do mean same and not similar) threads and replying with the same answers that I might as well have copy-and-pasted the answers from the first answer I posted (actually, I ended up providing numerous links on one occasion, then providing number links to the same question when the question popped up a third and fourth time).</p>
<p>I agree with gabew42 that a FAQ would not end the purpose of having a forum nor does it mean the end of interaction between posters here. It should be used as more of a guide to answer basic questions and if someone isn't able to find their answer, then by all means, make a new thread to get an answer (or asking a transfer counselor works, too).</p>
<p>I forgot where I saw it before, but some places with a FAQ usually have the Question and Answer followed by amendments and related questions at the bottom. Not a bad idea if you ask me. </p>
<p>Plus, it's suggested that users should first use the "Search" option before inundating the forum with questions that have previously been answered. I know I myself use that feature extensively when I need to find answers (it also provides more perspective from knowledgable posters who don't frequent the forum anymore or never stumble across your question). Given the nature of the search option, it's pretty damn tedious to go through so many threads and read through all the posts pertinent to what you're looking for. The FAQ simply condenses all this information to one easily accessible area.</p>