<p>"..not too long ago, Penn shared the Ivy cellar with Cornell .."</p>
<p>FWIW back when I applied, Penn pretty much owned the cellar by itself.</p>
<p>monydad,</p>
<p>Considering that Penn is a fancy vocational school, it's not doing half bad. How impressive is it that they can convince naive high schoolers to shell out a quarter million to get a "nursing" degree?</p>
<p>I know a lot of bankers and lawyers who wish they had that nursing degree right now!</p>
<p>Look by all accounts Penn is a fine school. I know a grad of its nursing college, she is a fine human being and is married to a college pal of mine. You look at who you are, what's out there, and then choose what fits best. For many, that could well be Penn. No problems here.</p>
<p>It used to be considerably less selective, on a relative basis, than it is now, that's all I was addressing. And probably had some relatively weaker programs than it has now.</p>
<p>That doesn't make it a bad place for a particular individual, either now or even back then. It was still a highly regarded school back then too.</p>
<p>University of Tulsa is underrated...it doesn't even have its own page and so is university of Denver...BOTH top tier schools</p>
<p>Underrated: Notre Dame, Cornell, Miami, Dayton, Alabama(ZOMG ALABAMERS!?!), Georgia, Michigan, Northwestern, USNA, USMA, USCGA, USAFA, USMMA</p>