<p>how are college of general studies classes compared to day classes at penn? i’ve heard that they are easier but then that could be only rumor. </p>
<p>would i be at an advantage if i took say econ 101 and econ 102 through cgs as opposed to through the regular college?</p>
<p>CGS classes are exactly the same as the corresponding regular classes.</p>
<p>The only advantage they have for day students is the fact that they are generally in the evening and often meet only 1 day a week. The Econ 101 you mention is Wed. 6:30-9:30 this fall for example.</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that CGS students have priority when registering for CGS courses. So if you are a full-time day student, you need to get permission from CGS to enroll in these courses. </p>
<p>For things like Math, they are becoming more strict so that you actually need a good reason why you need to take the CGS version of a course as opposed to the one offered in your own undergraduate program.</p>
<p>WilliamC is definitely wrong. CGS is different enough that some CGS classes require different textbooks (Macro last year). I never took any CGS myself, but my roommate took CGS 103 and 104, and said that the curve was really easy. He also said that for the tests he had unlimited time to take it, which is definitely not true for the normal classes. Furthermore, the CGS 104 class seemed to have a lot fewer students than the 104 lectures.</p>
<p>There's a reason why Penn is making it harder for kids to sneak into CGS classes. In general they were easier. I'm not sure if this will change in the future, but that's how it was</p>
<p>so it's harder to get into them, or is it just that you have to wait until everyone else has registered? </p>
<p>are classes outside other than math easier to get into, or is it difficult for all subjects? (i.e. econ, bio, chem, etc.)</p>
<p>do you really plan on taking all cgs? Again, I have never taken the classes so I can't speak for myself. You need to get a permit from someone to register for CGS classes, and I'm not sure when you are given the opportunity to do so. My roommate got into a CGS math because 104 was required for him, and his schedule blocked off all possible time slots.</p>
<p>But really, the normal classes aren't gonna be too bad. If you try to take the easy road freshman year, you're gonna be f*d when come sophomore year, you're back with everyone else.</p>
<p>just econ 101 becuase it really doesn't fit into my schedule otherwise. (6-9 pm wednesday couldn't be a more ideal time) it would be absurd to go to penn just to take through the cgs. </p>
<p>for econ specifically, it turns out that you can take only 100 level classes through cgs; 200 level classes must be taken during the day</p>
<p>if stuff doesn't fit, you can probably get the advisors to approve your request</p>
<p>DON'T TAKE CGS CLASSES. I mean, obviously I can't stop you, but if you do you're a stupid little **** who took away the spot of someone that could've gone to Penn.</p>
<p>When it comes down to it, the only thing that sets Penn apart from your community college is the students: interacting with them, discussing the material with them, haring them ask questions, etc. Taking a CGS class is selling your soul. GPA isn't that important in college.</p>
<p>If you've been reading the thread at all, you'll see that he wants to take econ101 cuz it doesn't fit in his schedule. You'll also see that he agrees with you.</p>
<p>i happen to be doing work study and it frankly is more conveninent to take that ONE class at a non-conflicting time of the week like 6-9 once a week as opposed to spreading it throughout the week. </p>
<p>i just wanted to know what the differences between cgs classes and regular college classes were and "easier" was just a good term to differentiate and get the conversation going. </p>
<p>if i wanted a high gpa, trust me, there are more than a few majors at penn to accommodate that (i wouldn't be doing econ, that's for sure)</p>
<p>MichaelJ is almost certainly not correct in his statements. ALL of the CGS classes I have taken (13 to date) used exactly the same books as the day classes and in most cases were taught by the same instructors. </p>
<p>If an instructor allowed "unlimited time" to take a test then that instructor would almost certainly be dismissed (believe me, someone would have ratted him out). The rules are the same for everyone.</p>
<p>So please, have a little respect for the university - CGS classes are exactly the same as the corresponding day classes. If Penn is making it harder for day school kids to get into CGS classes (and in the 4 years I've been here the rules haven't changed) its because the demand for the evening classes has increased from the people they are meant for - working adults.</p>
<p>Sam, don't listen to this kid. Do a simple test yourself. Go to the penn bookstore website. Look up the textbooks for econ101 section 601 (cgs) and 001 (regular). CGS uses hubbard, and regular uses parkins. Just cuz he hasn't taken particular cgs classes doesn't mean such things don't exist.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I will only say what my roommate told me. He told me that there was as much time to take the tests as he wanted. There was never a need for him to take advantage of that situation, but the option was there. Maybe he misunderstood, but I'm just relaying what I heard.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the classes are most definitely not the same. Even if the course material is the same, CGS classes are by nature smaller. Whereas 104 will have hundreds of kids in one lecture room, I have heard that 104 CGS is much more personal, and the professors are as good as if not better than those that teach regular 104</p>
<p>If one were to ask you to rate the difficultly of a regular Penn class versus a CGS class on a 1-10 scale, 10 most difficult, on average how would you compare the two. </p>
<p>For example :regular Penn class 8, difficult, CGS class 5, average.</p>
<p>So its clearer for everyone, Thanks.</p>