Chance a Non-US citizen living in US

Student Lounge International Students
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<p>I live in US–actually have been for 6yrs now–but I dont have a green card… just a legal visa.</p>

<p>Quick question: Is it harder for Internationals to get into Ivy’s or major schools
OR is it easier, b/c many schools are turning to the internationals for their
money due to the worsening economy?</p>

<p>Everyone tells me differently so,??? :}</p>

<p>Applying to:
1.Cornell (for hotel manag),
2.MIT Sloan,
3.NYU Stern,
4.UPenn Wharton (Huntsman program)…
5. Harvard and Yale … i can dream, no??</p>

<p>And NO… Im not trolling. and NO again, Im not applying to the schools just for prestige.
I actually HAVE looked into their programs…</p>

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<p>GPA: fresh: 4.67 (4 Honors)
soph: 4.67 (1 AP, 3 Honors)
junior:4.75 (5AP classes… will get a B in one class this semester)
senior: thinking to take 5 AP’s 1reg. class</p>

<p>^ Ive gotten all A’s so far except this semester with 1 B</p>

<h2>Rank: top 1%</h2>

<p>ACT (ugh): 32 total: 35 writing (12essay), 35 math, 31 science, 26 reading!!!..
32 total: 34 writing (11 essay), 35 math, 27 science, 31 reading </p>

<p>I know it’s bad. Im taking it again in June… HOPEFULLY get a 34,</p>

<p>SAT I: been taking practice tests, over 2200
SATII: math2c: 780
korean: 800
ushistory: 770
physics:790
plannning to take chem next year…</p>

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<p>Extracurric:

  1. FBLA(4yrs): Chapter President, Region/Section Officer,
    4 different Business Achievement awards,
    1st place in the competition section/state</p>

<li><p>Model UN: Chapter Founder/President
Best Delegate Award (x2)
Research Award (x3)</p></li>
<li><p>Asian Club: President
Human Rights Projects
Multicultural food fair
Tutoring</p></li>
<li><p>Youth Court: Prosecutor Attorney and sometimes Defense attorney</p></li>
<li><p>Senior Center: been helping out for 4yrs</p></li>
<li><p>School Newspaper: running for an editor position next year…
editor forsure, co-ed-in-chief not sure…
“Article of the Isssue” award. “Reporter of the Issue” award </p></li>
<li><p>Varsity Tennis : but not THAT great.
Scholar Athlete Award</p></li>
</ol>

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<p>Internship:

  1. Business Development Intern at a company in Korea (4yrs) everysummer for a month
    everytime
  2. a human rights organization Development Intern for (6 months) by the time I apply…
    opened more than 10 chapters in different schools.
  3. Intern Reporter for a Korean newspaper… articles are in English (1 yr)</p>

<p>ANY comment would be GREEAAAATTT except for completely inappropriate harrassments… and be harsh. I don’t mind.</p>

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<p>To the first bit, anyone who can pay has a good chance in this economic climate. The fact that you’re international and will hence add diversity will help you. But why are you bothered about the answer anyway? Just do your best and don’t bother about factors that you can’t control like your nationality</p>

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<p>I think you’ll get into Cornell and Stern and have a shot at the others. Just don’t use Korean as your target language for Huntsman if you are indeed Korean.</p>

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<p>Hey, Hmom5! I actually remmber you from my last “expected” thread. Thanks again for helping me! It means alot! :]</p>

<p>Well, I was also worried about one of the points you just made: my ability to speak Korean. I realize that it plays absolutely no advantage since I am an international anyway, so I wasn’t looking forward to putting that as a strong point or anything. However… I have only taken 2yrs of foreign language on campus, blindly thinking that my Korean would cover the lang requirement. Would that be a detriment to my admission chance? I know I ask a lot of questions. Sorry–I’m just alittle nervous, becuase my senior is only an inch away from now… </p>

<p>Thanks :]</p>

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<p>Penn expressly tells kids not to use a native language as their target and I’ve never known anyone accepted to Huntsman using one.</p>

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<p>I’m not familiar with Huntsman, but my instinct is that Penn is out of its mind on the “other language” issue. If you have mastered English as a Second Language, any one who is thinking clearly knows that you have demonstrated your ability to learn another language! </p>

<p>How good is your Korean? Do you have a full academic command, or nearly so? By this I mean can you only converse within your family, or would you be prepared for university level studies or an entry-level job that requires at least a HS education? Full academic fluency is not easy to achieve (the national TESOL organization estimates 5 to 7 years for mastery of academic English) in any language. If you do have it in Korean as well as in English, you are well ahead of just about everyone else on the planet.</p>

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<p>MIT Sloan is a graduate school. They do offer an undergraduate minor in management science:
[MIT</a> Sloan School of Management Undergraduate Program](<a href=“http://mitsloan.mit.edu/undergrad/]MIT”>Overview | Undergraduate | MIT Sloan)
but that’s all.
It’s harder for internationals to be admitted to top schools unless they are full-pay. Even then, there may be limits on the number of students a school wants to admit from a given country.</p>

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<p>Happymom, Pen is not looking for mastery of a second language in Huntsman students, they are looking for language scholars who have demonstrated a strong interest in, and ability for, language study. Every applicant designates a ‘target’ language that they will focus on along with their Wharton studies, they ask that this not be your native language. Further, a tremendous number of applicants to the program are Asian and they seek a broad array of languages in the program. Why would this make them out of their minds?</p>

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<p>oops i guess i shouldve done some more research…
thanks greennblue 8)</p>

<p>iwas so happy that mit had a business program, but i guess not.
hm… but ive been hearing that MIT DOES have good majors related to business/econ</p>

<p>so, SHOULD i take another language???</p>

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<p>greenblue is incorrect, MIT has undergrad business ranked number 2 in the Country. If you are proficient in another langage, choose it.</p>