<p>Hey guys, I currently live in NY and am in the 100k+> income bracket. I plan on applying to Ross and to the Classics program the minute the deadline opens (August admissions are awsome). I attend a private Jesuit prep school.
(plan on double major in buisness/classics)</p>
<p>ACT: 31
GPA: 3.83 </p>
<p>Freshmen
English 1 H: A
Algebra 2 Adv H: B+
Global 1: B+
Biology H: B+
Latin 1: A
Religious Studies 1: A
Intro to computers: A
Intro to music: A</p>
<p>Sophomore Year
English 2 Adv H: B+
Geometry H: A
Global 2 H: A
Chemistry: A
Latin 2 H: B (grrr)
Spanish 1: A
Religioius Studies 2: A</p>
<p>Junior Year
AP english lit and comp: B+
AP US History: A
Trig-log-calc H: A
Physics H: A
Latin 3 H: A
Spainsh 2 H: A
Religious Studies 3: A</p>
<p>Senior Year (anticipated)
AP Lit and Comp: A
AP Calc: A
AP Macro: A
Latin 4 H: A
Engeneering Science H: A
Religious Studies 4: A</p>
<p>Extra curriculars:
I have worked at a local hardware store since 8th grade (for 5 years) for
10hrs+ p/w durirng the school year and 30hrs+ p/w during the summer. Total 1500hrs+ by the time I graduate.
Indoor track: freshmen/junior year
Cross country: Freshmen/sophomore year
Outdoor track: Freshmen/sophomore year
100hrs as a junior community service at local community house</p>
<p>Summer activities:
Freshmen: Went on a NOLS trip for 1month in wyoming/worked
Sophomore: Traveled through Europe for 3weeks/worked
Junior: Worked</p>
<p>Average chance, I’d say around 20%.</p>
<p>I think you have a great chance if you apply early. Applying early makes a huge difference. Getting more leadership will help but you still have a decent shot! Honestly, I don’t think Ross is THAT difficult to get in to… or it’s relatively difficult, but its prestige is exaggerated.</p>
<p>its acceptance rate is less than 10% for preferred admission</p>
<p>0123456, how can you say that Ross preadmit is not that difficult to get into or that anybody can have a “great chance” of getting into. Students with straight 4.0 GPAs and 2250+ SAT/34+ ACT scores are habitually rejected. </p>
<p>Ross admits under 20% of freshmen applicants into the preadmit program. The average unweighed GPA of Ross preadmits is 3.8, with a 32 ACT score and 1445 (out of 1600) SAT score. Virtually 100% off admitted students have taken AP Calculus AB or BC. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/Admissions/Bba/09PAProfile.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/Admissions/Bba/09PAProfile.pdf</a></p>
<p>“Honestly, I don’t think Ross is THAT difficult to get in to… or it’s relatively difficult, but its prestige is exaggerated.”</p>
<p>I can see three ridiculous remarks in a row in a couple of sentences…</p>
<p>UVAorbust. You’re not coming to Michigan, so why bother applying? ;-)</p>
<p>Alexandre, those students probably applied late. It’s much easier to get in with lower stats if one applies early, and the OP would probably have the best chance applying early.</p>
<p>rjkofnovi, its prestige is definitely exaggerated. Ross is a good business school but it’s still competing with UVA, Haas, Sloan, Wharton, Stern, etc.</p>
<p>0123456, you cannot apply “early” to Ross. Ross does not start considering applicants until January. The majority are not admitted until March or April.</p>
<p>And regardless of how early you apply, Ross will accept only the very best of students. Most applicants who apply, regardless of stats, will be rejected. No matter how you slice it, 20% accepted and a mean SAT/ACT of 1445/32 for entering Freshmen is tough. </p>
<p>Finally, how can Ross be overrated? Ross is one of the top 5 undergraduate Business schools (tied with Haas, McIntire, Sloan and Stern). Only Wharton is better. If people were claiming that Ross was the unquestioned #1 undergraduate business program, I would agree that it would be overrated. But how can a school that is ranked between #2 and #5 be overrated?</p>
<p>I was accepted as a preferred admit before Thanksgiving so my application was definitely considered before January.</p>
<p>True, Ross will accept top students, but I do think those accepted earlier (In the first 2 or 3 batches) had lower stats than those accepted later. My stats are a good example, as well as the others that were listed somewhere among these boards. I noticed that those that DID get in early did not even match the AVERAGE stats of Ross students. Of course the difference was small, but it still means something.</p>
<p>The ranking “#2-#5” is based on… what? Career placement? Admission rate? None of these rankings are “official” and Ross isn’t always in the top five. (It’s #8 here: [Top</a> Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/]Top”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/)) I’m not trying to undermine Ross’s prestige but it seems like people overlook the fact that there are plenty of other schools that could have greater opportunities. I don’t know on what basis you’re saying that Ross is tied with Sloan, but even if so, Sloan has a greater name (MIT… 3.8% acceptance rate) and a greater starting median salary than Ross. I don’t think those two are tied at all.</p>
<p>^^So where are you going to B-School?</p>
<p>“None of these rankings are “official” and Ross isn’t always in the top five. (It’s #8 here: Top Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek)” </p>
<p>Fine. So Notre Dame is better than Penn for UG business. Yeah, right!</p>
<p>“True, Ross will accept top students, but I do think those accepted earlier (In the first 2 or 3 batches) had lower stats than those accepted later. My stats are a good example, as well as the others that were listed somewhere among these boards. I noticed that those that DID get in early did not even match the AVERAGE stats of Ross students. Of course the difference was small, but it still means something.”</p>
<p>You do realize that there are other criteria other than just stats to be a pre-admit for Ross, correct?</p>
<p>I’m going to Ross.</p>
<p>Uh… I’m proving a point that rankings aren’t concrete… so I don’t really understand your sarcasm.</p>
<p>0123456, do you believe that Wharton is #4? BW does a good job ranking MBA programs, but its ranking of BBA programs is somehow unreliable. Every respected ranking has Ross ranked between #2 and #5. Even Businessweek has ranked Ross among the top 5 3 of the last 4 years. The top 5 ranking is based on academic excellence, facilities, placement etc… Compare Ross placement figures with those of other top universities/programs and you will see what I mean. Look, I am not saying Ross is “the best”. I am saying it is one of the very best undergraduate Business programs. I just don’t see how you can honestly say that Ross is easy to get into or that it is overrated.</p>
<p>On a separate note, Sloan’s affiliation to MIT certainly helps, but Ross and Sloan have very similar placement rates. The reason why starting salaries for Ross students is 5% lower than for Sloan graduates ($59,000 vs $62,000) is because more Sloan students work in the Northeast, which is significantly more expensive than the Midwest, where many Ross students end up working.</p>
<p>Yes…? I do? But assuming that well rounded kids are applying both early AND late, those with lower stats (based on what I’ve read on these boards) got in early while those with greater stats got rejected later on.</p>
<p>0123456, that does not change the fact that the average preamit students who enrolls graduated with a 3.8 unweighed GPA and scored a 1445 on the SAT. So if it is indeed easier to ger in earlier, only students with near perfect credentials will get in later.</p>
<p>Alexandre, I don’t believe Wharton is #4 which is exactly what I mean; these rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. To say that Ross is SO PRESTIGIOUS just because it’s been “ranked” high doesn’t mean that it is the best program out there. I know you aren’t making that claim, but I still think that Ross is a bit overrated. And your reasoning behind starting salaries makes sense, but when it comes to placement wouldn’t the affiliation with MIT have the advantage? </p>
<p>And I agree, I think it is a lot more difficult to get in later. UM as a whole works that way. Those that apply early get in with far lower stats than those that apply much later, just look at the decisions thread! </p>
<p>but… whatever, I really don’t want to argue and offend people. I’m not trying to denounce Ross (I’m attending there next year so obviously I believe it’s a good school) but to tell the OP that he has little chance would be wrong considering I know of pre-admits that got in with similar (if not lower) stats.</p>
<p>Ross’s prestige is not exaggerated. It’s right where it should be.</p>
<p>“I’m not trying to denounce Ross (I’m attending there next year so obviously I believe it’s a good school) but to tell the OP that he has little chance would be wrong considering I know of pre-admits that got in with similar (if not lower) stats.”</p>
<p>I completely agree with the above statement.</p>