<p>Anyone familiar with Jerome fisher, is it possible to get in without tech/business EC’s?</p>
<p>I’m pretty familiar with Jerome Fisher from attending various Penn events and discussing it with admissions officers. It’s certainly not necessary to have business and tech ECs, but it helps. Remember that most of the kids who apply (and definetely the majority of kids that get in) will have that sort of background. Even having one and not the other is beneficial. But the most important things for this program as stated by an admissions officer: a curious, intellectual mind and a strong mathematics background. Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Jerome Fisher (referred to as M&T) at Penn tries to get students who have an entrepreneurial inclination. Having a tech background is a plus, but more important is being able to explain why you would want a dual degree in business + engineering and how that fits into your career goals</p>
<p>I think you have an amazing shot at all of them becauase your test scores are crazy high and ur gpa is great too. you also have lots of strong ECs. i would just reccomend getting more community service. also try to focus your ECs on your app to show some focus. Other than that, you have a great shot. better than most.</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>Stanford: Reach
Princeton: Reach
Yale: Maybe
UPenn Jerome Fisher M&T program (Wharton backup): Maybe
Cornell: low reach
UMich: high match
UChicago: match
Carnegie Mellon: low match
NYU: safety
Berkeley: safety</p>
<p>LOL cornell as a safety?? I dont see how anyone could possibly believe that anyone is doing that unless you’re already a clinch to get in. BTW, why do you (IwillkillforMIT) think it’s easier than CMU? Just wondering since it has a lower acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Your courses/grades are fine. SAT will probably give you a little boost, but you still have to focus ECs.</p>
<p>Stanford - reach
Princeton EA - reach
Yale - lower reach
UPenn - low reach
Cornell - low reach
Michigan - low match
NYU - safety
berkley - match
CMU - match</p>
<p>crazyelite</p>
<p>Cornell-low reach and Michigan-high match but chicago-match???</p>
<p>@math64</p>
<p>My ECs all revolve around politics and creative writing, with SO being the only exception. How can I focus them more?</p>
<p>I don’t think “focus” is the right word, since as you said, your extracurriculars are politically oriented, which is great as long as you’re planning to study something that lies in the general direction of politics, public policy, etc. It would be a little strange for someone who didn’t know you well as to why you would go into STEM, besides your taking those courses and being on a science olympiad team. Since a lot of your extracurriculars are extremely common, you’d have to do a good job of explaining how those have shaped your experiences and pick out some unique things that you’ve done in those fields.</p>
<p>Just wondering @Nihilus, if all of your ECs are about politics and writing, why do you want to go M&T? Your application looks very strong, but if I’m wondering about that as some random kid, admission officers will definitely be wondering. You’d need a very strong essay explaining your interest.</p>
<p>@silogram My experience with model UN/congress and managing these writing websitess have shaped my interest in Management. Trying to bloc-build effectively at a conference and managing a team of writers is as close to business management experience as I could get.</p>
<p>The technology part is relatively easy; though I haven’t pursued any Siemens/Intel awards, I have excellent test scores in science and math, and have always been good at them. I’ve doubled up on science courses two out of my four years in high school. When I was in middle school, I’d read Stephen Hawking’s books for fun.</p>
<p>I like science, but since I’ve moved every single year, so far, of high school, going to three different high schools in two different states, I can’t afford to spend the time/resources on research, and I didn’t want to cram and study for competitions either. USAMO or USAPhO are in no way representative of the career or academic life of a mathematician/physicist, and I’d rather spend my extracurricular time doing activities that I enjoyed.</p>
<p>Also, I’ve found that writing/debate have given me a more defined dimension. I was always introverted- both of these activities have allowed me to communicate and network better, and I cannot say that pursuing science awards would have done the same.</p>
<p>I want to go into M&T because I want to be a leader in management and technology; my extracurricular paths, imo, reflect an interest in management, and a capability in technology. The do not mimic the ideal M&Ter, because in my opinion there are very few experiences in high school that really resemble or prepare for their respective career paths.</p>
<p>Stanford Princeton EA, Yale, UPenn Jerome Fisher M&T, Cornell are Reaches.
UMich- Match
UChicago- Lower Reach
Carnegie Mellon- Lower Reach
NYU- Match
Berkeley- Low Reach</p>
<p>I think you have a fairly good shot if your school is as good as you say it is, though admissions offices don’t like high SAT low gpa. </p>
<p>COrnell and M and T: reaches
UMich- Match
UChicago- high match
Carnegie Mellon- high match
NYU- Match
Berkeley- high match (low reach if you plan to do engineering)</p>
<p>also, can you PM me with the contact info for the Huffington post lady?</p>
<p>After my grades this year, my unweighted comes down to 3.91, idk weighted yet. I wouldn’t consider that “low” -_-. But yes, we are a top public school, we send around 8-9 kids to pton each year, over ten to cornell.</p>
<p>After looking at my school’s naviance stats, I have a pretty good idea of my chances at most of these schools, though M&T is still fuzzy, since naviance doesn’t sort by program; it just shows UPenn as a whole.</p>
<p>So at this point I would prefer if people offered advice or opinions on the strengths/weaknesses/possible improvements of my app rather than chancing.</p>
<p>Update: SAT IIs
Physics: 790
Chem: 800</p>
<p>Update: ACT: 36</p>
<p>Triple Perfect: 240 PSAT 2400 SAT 36 ACT</p>
<p>Of course, EC’s are still essential, but would that ^^ increase my chances significantly?</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>@Nihilus: I agree with the feedback you’re getting from all of the posters. You seem like a very well rounded, excellent candidate so based on my d’s experience I would pretty much agree that you’ve put together a great list. Not sure, if you mentioned…what are you doing this summer?, think about which teachers can write you some recommendations- perhaps the adviser to Quiz Bowl (who can write about your initiative and leadership to be a founder of that EC); perhaps start brainstorming ideas for your essays. My d applied to most of the same schools as you and she had an interview with almost all schools. If you still think you are on the shy side, perhaps, you can do some sort of Mock interview practice with adults (your parents friends you don’t know)? Just a thought…sorry, it seems a bit random but my d just went through the whole college search process. Pls PM me if you have specific questions. I hope this helps at least a little bit…AND keep working on finding target schools that you would be excited to attend (just in case or if $ becomes an issue).</p>
<p>First of all, congrats on that SAT! Secondly, Princeton is probably your hardest school, being and Asian male from NJ. You’re in the “good enough to admit” pile for all these schools. It’s up to the mood of the admit officer on the day.</p>
<p>Stanford: reach
Princeton (EA probably): reach
Yale: mid to low reach
UPenn Jerome Fisher M&T program (Wharton backup): low reach
Cornell: high match/low reach
UMich: match
UChicago: high match
Carnegie Mellon: low match
NYU: match
Berkeley: low match/high safety</p>