Chance for Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Johns Hopkins

<p>I'm a junior applying to college next year and my dream school is Stanford..although I probably won't get in, I'd like to know if I had a chance - I'm kinda new to this college thing lol.</p>

<p>Colleges:
1.Stanford
2.Duke
3.Johns Hopkins
4.Cornell
5.Harvard
6.Princeton</p>

<p>Unweighted GPA (4-point scale) - 3.9285</p>

<p>Weighted GPA (6-point scale) - 5.2390</p>

<p>APs
Sophmore year - AP World History, AP Calc AB/BC, AP Physics C: Mech, E&M
Junior year - AP US History, AP Chemistry, AP English, AP Environmental Science, Calculus III/Differential Equation (not an AP)
Senior year - AP Macroeconomics, AP Statistics, AP English, AP Biology</p>

<p>Class Rank
5/559 in one of the most competitive schools in the state</p>

<p>SAT I Scores
Critical Reading - 680
Writing - 710
Math - 770</p>

<p>SAT II Scores
Physics - 760</p>

<p>AP Scores
AP World History - 5
AP Calc BC - 5
AP Physics C: Mech - 5
AP Physics C: E&M - 5</p>

<p>*ECs *
Medical Bioscience Academy, Board Member (9,10,11)
Science Olympiad Varsity Team (9,10,11)
Quiz Bowl Team, President (11)
Economics Club, President (9,10,11)
Marshal (11)
Science Days (11)
Violin (9,10,11)
200 hours of volunteering at a hospital and other medical-related activities</p>

<p>Employment
Interning at one of the National Institutes of Health this summer</p>

<p>*Honors/Awards *
1st place in Ecology at Science Olympiad Regional Competition
9th place in Ecology at Science Olympiad State Competition
Member of 5th Place Science Olympiad States Competition
Member of 3rd Place Science Olympiad Regional Competition
3rd place team in Economics Challenge
Qualifier for the American Invitational Mathematics Examination
Qualifier for the U.S. Chemistry Olympiad National Competition
U.S. Congressional Medal Program
Scored in the top 5% of the nation in the American Mathematics Contest
1st Place in JV Astronomy at Science Olympiad Regional Competition
National AP Scholar with Distinction
7th Place in Quiz Bowl State Competition </p>

<p>Recs/Essays
I have awesome teachers and have asked a few about recommendations for next year. I plan on writing my essays in the summer (I already have some ideas) so they should be pretty solid.</p>

<p>I want to go into medical research. I really want to go to Stanford, but I don't know if I can get in. Since Duke is my second choice, I will probably apply ED (binding) at Duke - honestly, i don't even know if i can get in RD at Duke. Do you think this is a good choice (choosing to apply ED Duke over Stanford)?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance for the help</p>

<p>Yes –*they're similar in caliber, and applying binding ED provides you with the greatest advantage.</p>

<p>Are you going into just medical research? From your stats, I see you using your math/econ more. </p>

<p>You definitely enjoy challenges (your rigorous APs), passionate about math and science, and seem to love what you do.</p>

<p>HOWEVER-</p>

<p>To me, you seem a little too diversified and could be more focused. You've got a lot of achievements and ECs, but the only things that stood out to me was your top 5% AMC and also your volunteering. Your AP scores are very high, your leadership among your high school is definitely above average, and you've done pretty well at state competitions. But I'm still trying to see a WOW factor that blows me away. The closest for me were, again your top 5% AMC and CS. I hate to sound so critical, but I just want to see something that sets you apart from the hordes of applicants Stanford and Duke will get. (just a note-my top pick is Stanford too, if you want to know more about your competition =)</p>

<p>Write some great essays and get a great experience interning, and I'm sure you'll have a decent shot! Definitely go for ED (as the guy above said)</p>

<p>Good luck buddy!</p>

<p>^^I don't think he's really overdiversified. There's clearly a math/science focus in his achievements, but joining the Econ club and playing the violin won't be a felony in the eyes of adcoms. But I do agree that there is no WOW factor to guarantee admissions. (And top 5% AMC = Qualifier for AIME. No need to be redundant on the application.)</p>

<p>Looking at the stats, unless you wow Stanford in the EA stage with essays, I really think ED Duke might be a good decision depending on your family's financial status. Duke is much more stingy than Stanford when it comes to financial aid. However, with that said, most non-HYPSM colleges don't have wonderful aid packages. You could try to aim for some matches that have tons of merit scholarship opportunities (Vandy, Emory), but hey, I don't even know if money is an issue for you.</p>

<p>Whats ED and how does that work? Is HYPSM and other Ivies all need blind? </p>

<p>You seem a very all round strong candidate and very solid. Surely I expect a mixture of waitlists and acceptances from unis for you. Improve your SATs though.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input,
jenkster and ttan - Yeah I don't really have any "WOW" factor..but I plan on entering the Siemens Competition and Intel using the 400 hours of research I'll do this summer and hopefully it'll amount to something</p>

<p>shore - I agree, my SAT score is pretty low and I hope to get atleast 2250 on the next sitting</p>

<p>anything else i should improve on?</p>

<p>Say if money wasn't much of an issue for me..what then? Is Duke really more stingy than HYPSM schools? I know of a few people that have recieved a lot more money from duke compared with the ivies.</p>

<p>Duke gave me more than 10,000. Harvard gave me more than twice the amount that Duke gave me. Stanford gave me a little less than twice that of Duke's. Duke does give full rides to a select few that have extraordinary merit.</p>

<p>Depending on how your research goes (Siemens results won't be out in time will they? but you can still send abstracts right?) and your new SAT score, I'd say I like you for Duke RD, but that's just me. Haha if only I were an adcom - that'd be a fun job!</p>

<p>Since ED at Duke is binding, would the financial aid be significantly less than applying RD? My logic here is that Duke knows that you can't go anywhere else (that you have to go to Duke) if you get in as an ED applicant, so really they don't have to give you that much money. And since it seems, atleast according to you, that Duke is really stingy anyways, that might be a problem haha.</p>

<p>Wow I really don't know why ppl are telling you that you don't have a chance for Stanford, I mean i'm not the person to be giving you advice, hey i'm in a third tier college with a 2.8 GPA =( but that doesn't mean only the elite students can give you advice. I have a friend who got into Stanford with similar scores to yours, and had less awards than you, he has however won one of the best maths awards in South-East Asia which I can safely say is similar to your top 5% Maths award. Have faith, don't fret, there are many people who aren't even half as good as you and wish they'd done much better at high school.</p>

<p>However here's some advice: for the summer you should focus on something that you're really passionate about since you're doing some Siemen research (whatever that is, trust me I have no clue what all this about) that should lock you in your first choice uni, depending on how well the research goes and how well you translate this passion of yours in your application. Remember your passion should be the core of the application whilst the other extra-curricular activities and awards should reveal you're also well-rounded. It's the renaissance individual they're looking for, whilst you have breadth you need depth because there are just too many applicants who fall in the field of just either one. </p>

<p>Second, keep in contact with the teachers you're trying to get recommendations for, I'm sure they'll be really interested in your progress with this research project, talk to them outside of class discuss what you did with your research, if you're a shy person start off by asking if they have time to talk about something they discussed in class to make the talk relevant, then slowly progress that conversation to some of the things you did over the summer, it's essential your recommender have something to talk about than just classroom performance, the best applications have awards and activities and recommendations that complement each other. </p>

<p>Thirdly you really want that essay of yours to be extremely unique, read some examples Essays of Harvard, Stanford students or ... you get the point. I've done some research for you and books like "50 Successful Harvard Application Essays" seems like a good bet. Look for the essays that really stand out to you, these are the winners, the best essays often exploit the inner person of the writer, whilst at the same time explore the journey they go through. Write an essay that would really capture the attention of the admissions office, it's your inner thoughts and the person you are they look for in the essays. </p>

<p>I mean since you've listed some of the awards you achieve it would be useless to mention them in the essay again, the awards you listed and the summer research should be enhanced when your recommender mentions them (thus the reason you keep your potential recommenders in touch with what you are doing outside of classroom). Unless of course, you decide to write about your summer research opportunity, which in that case don't delve into the details of what you did, but what you ultimately tried to achieve and why and how this research was important to you. They don't simply want to know that you did it (that's what the activities section is for), you need to translate your passion here and how this kinda research may help you achieve a bigger goal in the future, remember Stanford is a stepping stone to achieving your dreams, not just getting into the school. So think outside the box, think in terms of a grand-scale not just for the sake of writing an application to get into Stanford, these ppl are looking for future leaders and world-changing individuals, not students who can withstand the rigor of Stanford's academics. With that said avoid the cliches of essay writing, topics such as winning the olympiad, state championship or whatever will not be unique without your individualism, remember even the most simplest topics can reveal soo much of who you are as a person. I did my essay on losing a basketball game (yes it may seem extremely trite and simple) but trust me I individualized it extremely well, the essay was more about my thoughts and the things that went through my mind during the game, and the lesson I have learnt from losing. I also weaved in something about my grandfather in the essay, if you want to read it just post your email and I will send it (as long as you don't publish it all over the net =) ).</p>

<p>Fourthly, yes as some of the posters mentioned, test scores, you still have a lot of chance to increase them and I suggest you take one or two more SAT IIs depending on how many Stanford and Duke needs. Interviews are also important but I honestly don't know what to expect, so you may need to read up on this. </p>

<p>Yes this is long-winded but it's the best advice I can give you, you may be extremely exhausted with the application process, but trust me, it will pay off in the end use that every ounce of energy you have and nail your application.
I may not be the best student in the world but that's something you have the opportunity to achieve, do I regret and dream about changing my past? you bet, and I would've utilized every one of these tips if I had known better, but since it's ill-advised to look back at the past and sulk I hope I can translate my mistakes and help someone else out. Remember don't hope for it, but have faith you can do it. They say if you have faith you can move a mountain. Good luck.</p>

<p>SHORE how can you give advise when you do not know what ED is?</p>

<p>Wow thats really long..thanks for the advice ChrisEW22</p>

<p>anything else?</p>

<p>I gave advice on the basis of applying normally.</p>

<p>you have a good shot at all schools. I agree with most people about the WOW factor or any passion within your ECs. Thing is, quite often, if all your ECs are math and science, the admissions panel will often view you as only listing them so in order to try and impress them (even if you are actually being honest). That is one thing, i think will work against you - the fact that your ECs dont show any passion in the non-academics.
As for your SATs, i think you could probably aim for over 2200. But i am just wondering how you got a 5 in AP Phy C but only a 760 in the SAT subject test. as far as i know, you can make a fair few mistakes and still get an 800. I just think some1 whos smart enough to get a 5 in Phy C ( a subject a fair few MIT students take in their senior year of high school) cant get an 800 in the subject test...it just doesnt add up.
But nonetheless, I THINK you are a very strong candidate. Stanford will be hard without the WOW factor, but with good honest essays, you should make it. From what i ve heard, stanford really looks for all-rounded applicants, and not just students with great test scores. So make sure you try and emphasise your allrounder student life rather than just Maths n Science.
you should make JHU though!! good luck</p>

<p>wow, ur situation is pretty much like mine! some differences- I'm a sophomore, who's rank 1 in the school. also, i do crosscountry/track. no things that stand out for me though.</p>

<p>what about me for the same schools?
i am a junior currently living in Southern California
I've taken every honors class freshman and sophomore year
GPA unweighted so far: 4.000
Academic GPA weighted Junior Year: 4.800
Rank: 1/688
Junior year with predicted scores:
AP Calc BC: 5
AP Phys B: 4
AP Eng Lang: 4
AP US Hist: 4
Senior Year classes:
AP Bio
AP Chem
AP Eng Lit
AP US Gov
AP Macro
AP Stats</p>

<p>SAT:
CR: 630
M: 800
W: 710 (E:10, MC: 69)
Total: 2140</p>

<p>SAT II:
Math IIC : 800
Phys (predicted): 800
US Hist (predicted): 730</p>

<p>ECs:
High school basketball all four years. (varsity only senior year and was captain on JV last year)
Youth League Soccer Coach
Youth League Basketball Coach
Youth League Basketball Referee
Volunteer at local hospital and member of volunteer board
Treasurer of Youth and Government club
member of ALS awareness club
Future Boys' State Attendee
President of Academic Letter Foundation (we provide the acadmeic letters for the letterman's jackets)
Member of CSF, National Honor Society
Tutor</p>

<p>interested in pre-med or mathematics or engineering</p>

<h1>1 choice of Stanford</h1>

<p>Duke and John Hopkins will be no problem based upon the stats.</p>

<p>Harvard, Princeton and Stanford will depend upon the Intel and Siemens competitions and how much you can improve those SAT scores. You'll need 2200+ for Stanford and 2250+ for Princeton and Harvard.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>'calcruzer' is that a response to me or to the previous person?</p>

<p>Sidfromaus - Haha yea I admit I was a little surprised about my SAT Physics score. But then again, AP Physics only consists of Mechanics and E&M, whereas SAT Physics has a much broader range of topics that we didn't study much for the AP exam (waves,optics,relativity,etc). For anyone that is taking SAT Physics after taking APC, be sure to study this stuff not on AP so you can maximize your score.</p>

<p>Calcruzer - Thanks, but is that for me or for the stueydue?</p>