<p>Okay guys my friend goes to an uncompetitive high school (actually its ranked in the 165s out of like 379 schools in NJ so its a terrible high school)</p>
<p>She wants me to help chance her. So i need your help. She's asian</p>
<p>GPA: 4.0(unweighted)
Class Rank: 3/350
SAT I: 2350
-Critical Reading: 800
-Math: 780
-Writing: 770, Essay: 11
AP Scores:
AP Lang/Comp: 5
AP US History: 5
AP CALC AB: 5</p>
<p>She has a superb essay. Her writing skills are fantastic. </p>
<p>Extracurricular:
started a fundraiser that raised $800+. Was regionally recognized (she got an award for it)
Participated and won quaterfinalist at an academic competition. Was on the academic team for all four years.
President of dar-four club (idk how to spell dar-four lol). Lots of community service.
Editor-in-chief of newspaper.
National Merit Commended</p>
<p>That's about it.
REMEMBER this: Her (and mine) high school severely lacks opportunities, meaning that we don't have USAMO/AMC/USABO etc like most of you guys do.
The last person to go to Yale from her school was in the 1990's.</p>
<p>Why does it matter if she’s third and not ranked sal?
Sal is just #2. No big difference. In fact, she’s smarter than the sal (who has a 2200), who is also applying to Yale) and the val (who has a 2000)</p>
<p>No OUtstanding EC? The fundraiser is not outstanding?</p>
<p>Oh and what colleges could she apply to with those credentials?</p>
That pretty much says it, but the very strong SAT helps, and the EC is good but not compellingly good, so I’d say a longshot but possible. Wish your friend luck, and advise her to find some lower reaches and safeties to fall in love with. She is a great applicant for most schools, but Yale isn’t most schools.</p>
<p>Schools report the number of vals and sals. The majority of the unhooked are top 2, the vast, vast majority from non top high schools.</p>
<p>No, the fund raiser was not outstanding. Outstanding would be started the concept, spread it schools throughout the nation, raised hundreds of thousands. </p>
<p>The SAT is not very strong for Yale where the 75% is 790 per section. </p>
<p>She is a good applicant for almost all schools but I don’t see HYPS and other ivies could go either way.</p>
<p>Hmmmm. This is funny…Because you know what? </p>
<p>She was ACCEPTED!!! She was in fact an applicant from my high school ( which was ranked in the low 165 of the 379) two years ago. I knew her. I guess Yale was lenient on her.</p>
<p>Anything is possible, but most fitting her description would not get in. With under 7% being admitted, the unhooked are pretty spectacular today.</p>
<p>I have a question: If you were to compare two applicants, one coming from a top-notch private high school and the other coming from a low public high school, and both had similar SAT scores…and
the private high school kid had some crazy USAMO award but the public kid didn’t simply because that kind of stuff isn’t offered at his/her high school, who would you pick?
Let’s assume that all other factors are controlled (both students were val, 4.0 GPAish, similar community service, etc)</p>
<p>@redroses—the reason i ask this to you is that you believe, which is 100% true, that ppl usually accepted to HYPS have amazing awards. But sometimes those amazing awards are correlated with the number of opportunities they’re given, which eventually correlates to the quality of the high school. I understand that colleges look in context of the high school but it seems that you don’t understand that. Im not insulting just pointing something out, for which i need an explanation from you. </p>
<p>Im not sure if this is coming out the way i want it to come out.</p>
<p>For me, it would depend on the profiles of the other applicants admitted so far, which application I personally liked more that day, and all these little subjective factors that make admission at the most selective colleges an art rather than a science. But then again, I’m not an admission officer (thank goodness).</p>
<p>obviously the top notch private school student. he/she is much more likely to be prepared for the rigor of an ivy league education. </p>
<p>Once again, you failed to look at the public school’s context.
Should top ivies be forgiving of such?
Im getting the message that in the long run, public schools are at an disadvantage.</p>
<p>Okay well recruited athletes/legacies/urms have special seats for them.
Im just talking about two unhooked applicants; unhooked applicants occupy a different portion of seats in acceptances to HYP</p>