Chance me for HYPS.. I'm desperate =(

<p>hi, i am an international student, asian =)</p>

<p>and female, gonna apply this yr </p>

<p>i am extremely interested in harvard, yale, and wharton </p>

<p>before seeing my profile, i first wanna let u know that my high school does not
offer any AP cources, any american college related materials, and every
course my school offers is not optional but required =(
i can not choose my own subjects
and every single student in my school prepares for a university in my
own country. </p>

<p>So, i am the ONLY ONE who've been preparing for a college in america
i had to do every SAT1,2 material by myself . .
besides my school limits a number of club to only "one", so i can not
participate in more than one club activity at my school </p>

<p>my school doesn't have any sports club boo! </p>

<p>and my school starts at 7 : 30 a.m ends at 10:30 p.m ! terrible =(
so i had to do my ECs on only weekend </p>

<p>i am gonna explain my stiuation to admission officers so i hope they would
consider this </p>

<p>anyways, here start my EC and some info. Plz chance me! =) </p>

<p>and actually i am worried about SAT1, 2
because i haven't any test results available yet.
i am gonna take the SAT1 this october, and SAT2 (3 Subjects) next month.</p>

<p>my common app main essay will be good or more appealing
and my letters of recommendation!! i already got them, and they are really really amazing!! </p>

<p>i just want to hear other people's thoughts, for i have no one who can help me! i am open to your opinions! =D</p>

<p>high school : severely competitive
number of students : 230
rank : top 5 %
EC </p>

<ul>
<li>VANK(Voluntary Agency Network of Korea)</li>
</ul>

<p>Ban Ki Moon Secretary-General of the United Nations -Video Interview
Carried on TV by KBS(Korean Broadcasting System)
(As one of two representatives of the whole Korea; Nation-wide)
Korea Ambassador award
Most honorable ambassador award(when I was 6th)
PR Korea Ambassador(10th-12th)
UCC Korea Ambassador(11th-12th)
Asia peace maker (9-12th)
P2P web-magazine journalist(10-12th)
KTV Interview as a representative of the whole VANK people!
VANK Club leader(11-12th) VANK@ECL at school(Organizer, President)
One of the top 15 in the essay contest
One of 15 participants in JeonJu Hanok Village Camp with foreigners from France, China, Germany, Hong Kong(11th Summer 8.16~8.18)</p>

<p>Best UCC Idea Prize during the JeonJu Hanok Village Camp
Kim Jang Hoon(Korean Singer)’s VANK concert staff
Find the best Korea ambassador winner(2006)
Korean Naval leader Lee Sun Sin Essay Contest 3rd Prize(12th)
One of participants in Global Class Pen-pal Exchange Program with 3 students from Untied States, Japan, Malaysia</p>

<p>Korea and China Peace Camp in Korea(12th Summer 8.4~8.7) ; One of 20 representatives of Korea with 20 representatives of China</p>

<ul>
<li>VANK Activities at my School </li>
</ul>

<p>Club VANK@ECL both Organizer(11th) and President(11-12th)
First Club Off-line Street Activity in In Sa Dong (10th Summer)
Second Club Off-line Street Activity in In Sa Dong(11th Winter)
→ My activity carried on Newspaper at Daum, Naver</p>

<p>Interview with Teen journal ‘DaMatPuReonNuri’ (Carried on newspaper for teens)
Voluntary Work Contest 3rd Prize for my street activity(10th) ; City-wide
Club Work Display Winner of all clubs during the School Festival(11th)
Global Letter Exchange Program with high school students from United States, Japan</p>

<ul>
<li>NGO Refugee Pnan</li>
</ul>

<p>Graduation at the Refuge Pnan International Refugees and Human Rights school(8. 11~ 8.12, 11th)
One of volunteer regular members
Court-document translation
International food festival with people from Congo at Seoul National University
Volunteer general assembly
Boi-Sa-Bi Refugee Festival with people from Jumma
Visit to Hwaseong Immigration Processing Center with Pnan president
Rice delivery to Refugee family
 </p>

<ul>
<li><p>Free Hugs Korea
<br>
One of regular members of Free Hugs Korea Organization
Free Hugs Campaign at GangNam Subway Station and YongDong Severance Hospital (Carried on MBC TV Program ‘On Focus’) (10th)
Free hugs Korea Conference (2007.03.02)
Free hugs YES TOUCH campaign (2007.03.02)</p></li>
<li><p>Other work or Award etc.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>Best Prize at the Republic of Korea Student English Speech Contest(Nation-wide)
Shoes of Hope Sharing Festival to Africa(11th)
Taean County Oil Spill Volunteer (8 hrs)
Volunteer and teacher; IF Happy Nolto (Every 2nd, 4th saturday; School Take Off Day) Class for children in low-income family (12th)
Seoul Children(the disabled) Hospital Volunteer work (11th) (perhaps 20-30 hrs)
International NGO Good Neighbors ‘One Heart’ Ambassador(12th) </p>

<ul>
<li>My Leadership Position (except VANK club activity) and other activities at school </li>
</ul>

<p>President of Class (11th)
President of Class (12th)
President of Special Class(11th)
My school does have a special class; students whose grades are within top 10% are eligible for the class and I was one of them. We study together and we receive extra intense academic courses during the Self-study time. And I was the president of the class
<br>
School Essay Contest Winner(1st prize) during the 1st semester (11th)
School Essay Contest 3rd Prize during the 2nd semester (11th)
exemplary student prize  Photo Club ‘Surprise’ Member (10th)
Perfect attendance reward(11th)
English Communication Ability Test; Included in 1st Class(11th) ; Nation-wide
English Communication Ability Test; Included in 2nd Class(10th) ; Nation-wide
One of Representative Weekly Duty students
President of English Conversation Class
Student Lunch Helper (20-25 mins everyday) (11th)
Research on the actual conditions and needs of the disabled (20 hours) (12th summer)
</p>

<p>any advice! any help! =)</p>

<p>It’s hard to chance you…We need a GPA and without the SAT scores it will be hard to chance you also. However your EC’s are amazing and you have great recommendations you said which is great! So…what about your GPA? Have you taken any practice SAT’s online and received an idea of how you might score?
Also…you are going to need to write an amazing essay and explain your situation and your passion for an education in America! Go for it!!!
Good Luck…chance me back…thanks :slight_smile:
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<p>Agree with Kmitch.</p>

<p>my school doesn’t do GPA! =D
but i gusee it will be 3.8~ 3.9</p>

<p>Hi Natalia Ann Lee!</p>

<p>First off, I will comment that I read on a website that of all international students, students from Korea have the best of chances to get into the Ivies … so you already have an edge in international competition, because I hear that Korean schools are extremely rigorous (so I’m not too surprised at the 7:30 a.m.-10:30 p.m. school hours). </p>

<p>I will say that, still, international competition for the Ivies is very … intense. Admission rates are typically half of what US students experience (for you admission rates are about 4% or less), and if you are in need of financial aid, your chances of admission or even lower because financial aid resources are usually dedicated to US students - yes it’s unfair but that’s how the system works.</p>

<p>Your 3.8-3.9 UW (meaning that you have some marks that are Bs) is very solid. For your SATs, I will comment that admission officers really do not like to see prospective applicants who take those tests in their senior year, because most American students do actually take those tests in their junior year when they apply to these schools. Why? Seniors have an advantage over juniors. However, you may have an excuse (a very good one) because you are in school 7 hours longer than us American students. </p>

<p>For someone who doesn’t have much time on their hands, you certainly have a very strong EC list. However, I have a few gripes about it. You cannot list that you’ve been on national TV AND you cannot list any honors or awards that you’ve won prior to high school. Also, volunteer work hours do not count towards Honors or Awards. (I’ll talk about honors and awards later) However, feel free to talk about those experiences in your essay and what you’ve made out of those experiences. Otherwise, you have a very solid volunteer record and you demonstrate leadership in your ECs. I also like your international experience, with your participation in pen-pal, volunteering in Africa, and the village thing. However, breadth (the number of activities) is not important. Yes, you have a laundry list. But what do you really enjoy doing? Colleges want to know what you like. Do you like volunteering? If you do, talk about it in your essays. Be passionate. Release your inner thoughts. Reveal yourself and be yourself. </p>

<p>For your honors and awards, you seem to be a little confused. Being an ambassador isn’t technically an honor in college admissions and neither are volunteer hours. Here in the US, they’re awards that you’ve won. For example, an essay contest that you’ve won in your province or country. That counts. I recommend that you do not list any honors that you’ve won in school, because though they are important to you, they are trivial to admissions at the Ivies. I will note that honors are not a must in college admisisons. </p>

<p>Other awards and honors that are academic include scores from the American Mathematics Competition 12 (AMC) and qualifying for the AIME (American Invitational Mathematics Examination). These competitions are considered supplements to the SAT math here in the US, because these tests are so much more difficult than the SAT math. Btw, the math olympiad equivalent in Korea is the Korean Mathematics Olympiad.</p>

<p>I will also give you another tip in college admissions besides writing passionate personal statements. You also need to be interested in the schools themselves. You obviously know that they’re prestigious. However, behind the prestige, what else do you like about them? For these top-tier schools, every one has its own unique academic system. You need to find out what the school’s teaching philosophy is and whether it is compatible for you so that you can make the most out of the school. College admission officers want smart people, but they also want people who can gain and contribute the most from being in their school. For example, MIT does not grade its first-year students for the first semester because the curriculum is too rigorous and it’s used to help students adjust to a new academic environment. </p>

<p>Other than that, I will say that you’re a very strong and hard working student. You should be immensely proud of what you’ve done even if you do get rejected by HYPS. Admission to these schools does not guarantee success, and rejection by these schools also does not mean failure. You can always try again as a grad student. (We love second chances here in the US) Also, I recommend applying to other schools here in the US. Ivies aren’t the only schools offering the best education. For example, if you’re interested in engineering, feel free to apply to Berkeley or the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. These schools have one of the best engineering programs in the States (Top 3 I think). Also, you’ll have a easier chance of getting in for undergrad and getting into the top schools as a grad student. </p>

<p>Your chances for HYPS: Slightly far reach</p>

<p>I wish you good luck this college admission season, and feel free to PM me if you have any other questions or if you need help with the personal statements/essays. (I only did this because I just returned from a doctor’s appointment and I have some free time to kill before I go back to school)
-ab2013</p>

<p>i am newbie.So i cant give you the best chances.But i feel that your profile is very strong.just get a high SAT score and you have a fair chance.!!!</p>

<p>thank you, ab2013, ss_2310! your comments helped me a lot!</p>

<p>and ab2013, what are you! you’re like an expert =D thank you so much</p>

<p>but i think you were confused with my EC lists.. i just listed everything i did without classifying them in order of importance
and my ambassador position is not honor or award
this is not my school program but my positions as an ambassador was
supported by VANK, a kind of NGO </p>

<p>and why can’t i list that i’ve been on national TV? some people i know who are currently in their colleges in US listed their exposure to media in their
EC resumes! and it didn’t cause any trouble </p>

<p>Thanks for your opinions! =)</p>

<p>Hi Natalia Ann Lee,</p>

<p>Although it’s difficult to chance you without a GPA and SAT scores, I think your ECs are amazing; you have been active in many national-level activities. If your grades and SAT scores are up to par, I think you should try applying to HYPS, especially because you are an international student. However, since we all know that being accepted to HYPS is pretty much a crapshoot, I would apply to some other schools as back-ups.</p>

<p>If you don’t mind me asking, what is the name of your school? If you feel uncomfortable writing it on the web, you don’t have to tell me or you can PM it to me. I’m Korean too (can you tell by my username?), so I’m just curious.</p>

<p>And thank you for chancing me in my thread! I actually chose Emory and Rice as matches, and I was thinking about applying ED to Rice, but I’m not sure now, haha.</p>

<p>ddalki! Thank you for your advices!! </p>

<p>wow, nice to meet you! i couldn’t imagine meeting any korean ppl here in CC =) are you in US ?</p>

<p>Didn’t think you would meet Koreans on CC? Haha, is that a joke?</p>

<p>Yeah nice joke but seriously, school from 7:30 - 10:30. Dang I’d shoot myself</p>

<p>Um… wow. That’s a lot of things you’ve done. Seriously, I’d need a time turner to do all that… and you did it on weekends too… Nice Job. </p>

<p>I’ll assume you don’t attend a foreign language high school… Though you haven’t taken any standardized tests yet, you have solid ECs, some of the best I’ve ever seen. Seriously, no one can match those ECs. </p>

<p>Good luck on the tests… you’ve waited too long(until senior year) and I hope you don’t do badly.</p>

<p>Well… I’m Korean too… but I’m domestic from So Cal.</p>

<p>guys i was serious!! =D actually I am new here in CC!
so i had no idea how many ppl were here lol </p>

<p>i didn’t want to wait too long, either<br>
just it took me a long time for me to study all materials by myself
esp SAT2… </p>

<p>and i’ve never been to any english speaking countries!!
it was a kind of huge obstacle </p>

<p>actually i had my first sat1 test in january and i got 1810
but i didn’t expect much </p>

<p>i want to get at least 2200 this time =(
but my mid-term exams coincide with the sat1 …terrible
i will be done with my mid-terms on October, 2! ..
and the sat is.. two days later after then..
Duh</p>

<p>Your ECs are great, really!</p>

<p>nbump ppzzr</p>

<p>what? 10char</p>

<p>These are legitimately the best ECs I’ve seen. Really amazing. If you focus your application around them, I think you have a fair shot.</p>