Chance me ? for ivies

<p>SAT: 2210 </p>

<p>Reading: 750 Math 740 writing: 720 </p>

<p>Full IB diploma </p>

<p>Math HL 6
BIO HL 7
English HL 6
History HL 7
French SL 5
Chem SL 7</p>

<p>Mark for year 11 90% </p>

<p>Predicted : 40 with bonus</p>

<p>President for school Newspaper Club
Founder and CEO of Red Cross club
5 years in district honor band with clarinet
5 years in school band with sax
work at a daycare teaching chess (3 years)
teach disabled children swimming (2 years)
member of varsity Cross-country team (3 years)
Planning city events with a organization.
staff for local MUN</p>

<p>bump !!!</p>

<p>All Ivies are reaches. Valedictorians with perfect grades at school, excellent essays, 2300+ on the SAT and strong ECs have a less than 30% chance of admission.</p>

<p>Low ivies: reach.
High ivies: almost impossible.</p>

<p>HYP: approximately 5%
Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth: approximately 10%
Penn, Cornell: approximately 15-20% </p>

<p>Those are the approximate overall admit rates. In other words, you more or less fit the profile of an average Ivy League applicant, and most Ivy League applicants are rejected. If you’re an international student your chances may be a little better or a little worse than the above, depending on your country.</p>

<p>Your SAT scores and IB grades are somewhat low compared to the average successful Ivy applicant. You should add (non-Ivy) matches and safeties to your application list.</p>

<p>Bruno, how is a 1490 on the CR&M lower than the average Ivy League applicant? That falls in the 50th percentile of the freshman class at HYP and is slightly higher than the mean at most of the other Ivies. Obviously, as is the case for all applicants, the Ivies are a reach for the OP, but his credentials are solid. I definitely agree he needs to apply to several matches (non-ivies) and a safety or two.</p>

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Not that it makes much of a difference, but Penn’s overall admit rate was 12% for the Class of 2015, and 14% for the Class of 2014, so its current approximate range is actually closer to 10-15%.</p>

<p>^^ The SAT scores are solid.
As for GPA/class-rank, that’s not clear.
Those ECs look ~typical for Ivy applicants.</p>

<p>Simply being an excellent student with strong essays and LORs might satisfy Cornell without additional, distinguishing Hoohah. For the other 7, unless you are royalty from an exotic country, or have some other story (narrowly escaped Somali pirates in an improvised raft), Ivy admission is probably a long shot.</p>

<p>If you’re an international student, consider top ~20 LACs. For typical arts & science majors, academics are comparable to Ivy League. Some of them apparently are eager for more international applicants (if the very large average financial aid packages are any indication.) If you want engineering, and cost is not an issue (because you won’t get any aid), consider selective state universities (Michigan, Berkeley, Texas, etc).</p>

<p>45Percenter, I’m aware of Penn’s recent admit rates. What I meant to suggest, after running CrazyAsian’s creds through my finely tuned chance-o-meter, is that his chances at Penn appear to be slightly better than average. Which is to say, not too good.</p>

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<p>So instead of “the approximate overall admit rates,” those are actually the approximate CrazyAs1an admit chances according to the tk21769 chance-o-meter. ;)</p>

<p>Precisely.</p>

<p>tk, Cornell CAS and Engineering are as selective as Brown, Penn and Dartmouth. In recent years, three of my students applied to Cornell and not a single one was admitted (two of them ended up at MIT and the third at Stanford). Insinuating that Cornell is less selective is irresponsible and false.</p>

<p>O.K. then. What are the correct, separate admit rates for Cornell CAS & Engineering? Precisely how much lower are they than the aggregate 18.4% implied by the 2010-11 Common Data Set admission numbers (36,338 1st year apps, 6,673 1st year admits)?</p>

<p>I’m comfortable with “15-20%” as an approximate admit rate for the Cornell CAS … but if you have a more precise number, please share. Whatever it is, I’d expect the engineering admit rate to be somewhat lower.</p>

<p>tk, I was not referring to acceptance rate, I was referring to the quality of students admitted. Whether a university’s acceptance rate is 18% or 12% is irrelevant. But for the record, the CoE at Cornell has a higher admit rate than the CAS. That is pretty standard at most universities that have separate admissions for both, including Columbia, Michigan and Northwestern. The reason for this is simple really, Engineering is a pretty self-selective field and typically attracts a consistantly stronger applicant pool than CAS. In 2010, the CAS admitted 16% with a mid 50% SAT range of 1330-1530 while the CoE had an admit rate of 22% with a mid 50% SAT range of 1370-1570. I am not sure what the exact stats were in 2011.</p>

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<p>It’s not irrelevant to someone asking about his admission chances. I understand that selectivity is about more than the admit rate. However, if his scores are roughly in the median band, and other qualifications are in line, then his nominal chances of admission should correlate more or less closely to the acceptance rate. Of course, all kinds of factors complicate this.</p>

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<p>What’s your source? I don’t doubt you, I’m just curious for future reference.</p>

<p>That SAT range for the CAS appears to be about the same as Brown’s. It’s a little hard to compare because Cornell’s CDS only reports the aggregate for all its schools; the CDS does not show an M+CR composite band; various sites differ as to whether they aggregate M+CR or M+CR+W (and perhaps, in how they calculate the aggregate.) But … Brown’s admit rate according to 2010-11 CDS data was about 9%. For 2009-10 it was ~13%. If the latter is the number we should be comparing to your 16% for the CAS, then for all practical purposes, as far as we can tell, Cornell CAS may be roughly as selective as Brown.</p>

<p>The link below lists admit rates by college:</p>

<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I am still looking for the SAT breakdown by college.</p>

<p>i am from Canada</p>

<p>what do u think i can do to increase my chances of getting in?</p>

<p>lol i like how no one understands my grades… </p>

<p>UW: 3.92
weight: 4.62 </p>

<p>class rank: 6/220</p>

<p>i don’t understand how i only have a 10% chance at most ivies? </p>

<p>i write great essays and will have super excellent recs</p>

<p>Your SAT score is without question great, but the problem is your international which makes it actually an average score. In addition to this, you have nothing that helps stands out, and being an international is an anti-hook. I would say your chances are decent/low</p>