<p>If your mom is tenured at Columbia my understanding is that not only will you get in, but you’ll get a discount.</p>
<p>Impossible to chance without essays. I feel that CC’s emphasis on quantitative numeric stats is misleading, as many people with worse numeric stats but better ECs and essays have gotten into these schools while people with better numeric stats have gotten rejected. </p>
<p>Fauve is correct, yes you have legacies, connections, and an internship - but how many of these things did you obtain without the use of your parents or help? They’ll have expected you to have taken advantage of your resources that you had. Problem is that I don’t see any passion for a particular activity in your application. Believe it or not, colleges like well rounded classes, and you make those with “pointy” applicants. </p>
<p>Your chances are as good as anyone elses without a more thorough description of your ECs and essays.</p>
<p>But I am really passionate about what I’m doing in my internship because it relates to my favorite classes and such and I will show that in my common app. Anyone else have opinions on that list?</p>
<p>i agree with post #5. ivy leagues turn down tens of thousands of valedictorians every year. you should keep an open and accepting mind when it comes to other schools</p>
<p>I have a legitimate question for you.
Many, many students (I am not saying you, I promise) especially those that go to private schools where attendance at top schools is expected, just automatically look at the top ten colleges and choose 8 to apply to without actually seeing if those top ten schools are good fits for them. I agree, you should go to a great school if you can, but have you actually taken time to think about what you really want in a college, other than prestige?</p>
<p>It is important to go to a good school, yes. But a person who goes to Harvard for undergrad and a person who goes to University of Delaware for undergrad with the exact same qualifications have the same chances in life. I just want to make sure that you have taken the time to be sure that you would actually enjoy the schools you want to apply to. College is supposed to be the best four years of your life you know.</p>
<p>I really don’t think you have a good chance. Let’s face it, your grades are poor. Ivy League schools don’t like seeing grades like these from students who are so privileged. Your SAT’s should also be much higher for someone from a background like yours. Admission officers are going to look at your background and school and assume that because you are better off than the majority of applicants you had tutors. And if you were to have a tutor your SAT scores should be much higher. Your SAT II scores aren’t good either. A 690 in US history, that test has a ridiculous curve so getting that score means you got more than 20 or 25 questions wrong, possibly even more. And at Yale and Columbia all of your test scores are required so they will see your US history. Your Lit score isn’t impressive either. In general your test scores are meh, not very good considering your background. I’m from a highly ranked public school that actually has a wide range of students, those who are crackheads to those that will be mechanics to those who won the national physics award. And at this school with people who are less fortunate than you their scores, including mine, surpass yours. Your two AP scores aren’t impressive either because a 4 on AP US is like 80th percentile, and the test is easy. By getting a 4 on the AP test you confirm to admissions that you deserved the B+ in history so your school in actuality may not be that hard. Your schedule next year isn’t impressive either. By the end of my senior year I will have taken 9 AP classes, five senior year. That many is normal for many students who are applying to U Michigan, Rutgers, and other top schools.
You are also confused with the use of legacies. A student only has a legacy if their PARENT, not grandparent aunt or uncle, attended the undergraduate school. Attending the graduate school generally does not count as a legacy, even if that means your parents attended Harvard Law. The legacy isn’t helpful either because it only doubles your chance, so the amount of legacies who are admitted is like 18%. But along with that boost comes higher expectations. You should rival your parent if not perform better, and I bet your parents had better scores and hooks. Your parents jobs play very little role in your application considering they are from the upper class. If your parents were a gas pump worker and a waiter at a restaurant then their occupation matters, but for you once again it hurts you. Therefore you are at a disadvantage.
You also have very lame extracurriculars. The kids who apply to these schools are committed to numerous activities such as varsity sports, part-time jobs, community service, academic teams, etc. These kids do many and have done them for an extended time, so if you were to sign up now, it would indicate that you were only doing the EC’s for college not because you are interested.
You are also confused with the recs and essays. There are very small criteria. They can make or break your chances but if you are outstanding in your EC’s or academics they can only hurt you if your teacher says you are a cheater. The majority of essays are boring and if yours is boring but you are highly qualified then it doesn’t really matter.
I’m sorry to break it to you but I don’t think you have a great chance.
Plus your class rank is poor, out of only 150 (which is very small) you are in the top 25. I’m in the top 3 of a class of 600, and that is ok.</p>
<p>This internship is impressive but that is all you’ve got, no commitment. And there are plenty of kids with just as great internships who are applying to state schools rather than the Ivies.</p>
<p>Also if you claim to be from the top school in the country, or one of them, then your sat score should be in the 2300’s and your subject tests should be at like 780 or higher. If not then they only go to show that your teachers aren’t very good and you are most likely having an inflated grading system.
And the percentage of kids from private schools who get into those schools is much lower than public school, and the amount of kids who apply from both is probably even if not more from private school. Therefore you have more competition. The percentage of undergrads from private schools at the Ivies is like 30%.
If I were you I would be looking at some state schools and small liberal art colleges.</p>
<p>Truthfully I would say they are very high reaches.
Given your privileged background your grades/scores make no sense, even if your school is challenging you should have a tutor if you are pulling B’s and want to go to an elite school.
You basically have no EC. Colleges don’t care if as a hobby you do something, they want to see you out in a club, band, team, or taking lessons. The summer internship is good but it isn’t so amazing that it will carry you.
Class rank is done over all 4 years, they take your freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior averages, average them (with the weighted points if your school does that) and then ranks from 1 to the lowest in your class.</p>
<p>Overall you have a good shot at many great colleges just not ivys, apply anyway anything can happen but find a good safety you feel good about if you don’t get in to your top choices</p>
<p>Yeah but he’s a fac-brat you guys.</p>
<p>My grades are not bad. As you say you are not a privilidged kid who got to go to one of these schools so don’t pretend like you know anything about their systems. My sophmore years grades are good and my junior year grades are excellent. I have spoken to the head of admissions at the college my dad worked at and he said i have a very good chance at y. Even with your legacy thing that still means im legacy at yale and uchicago. No my testing scores arent fantastic but they arent bad either, looking at naviance i see that for hyp i have sat1 scores which are higher than most who got in last year. As for sat II scores i havent finished taking them yet. strat94, I asked to be chanced not to be bashed. You just straight up were an ******* and most likely its because your upset i have a better chance than you do. All i wanted to know was chances and why, you don’t have to be a jerk, not necessary.</p>
<p>OP, now you sound like you’re just excusing your grades, test scores, etc. If you already think you’re set due to Naviance, then why are you asking? Yes, Strat94 wasn’t as nice as perhaps you would like (though you were certainly immature in your response: “…most likely its[sic] because your[sic] upset i have a better chance than you do”), but I do have to agree with some portion of what was said.</p>
<p>Your grades may not be “bad,” and your testing scores may not be “bad” either, but you need to realize that you’re competing against students who went to similarly prestigious schools who have 4.0s and 2400s. Your grades and test scores aren’t bad, no, but they aren’t particularly great either. I come from a high school that places lots of students in Ivy League and Ivy-caliber schools, and personally had a higher GPA, test scores, and possibly ECs, though you didn’t state much about them, than you. I (initially; I’ve since transferred from my prior institution) didn’t get into the Ivys I’d applied to, even though I’d been told I had quite a fair chance, and many of the other much more qualified students from my school, save for a very select few, similarly got rejected from HPY(SMC, in which C stands for Columbia).</p>
<p>Your Internship sounds good, though I doubt it’s enough to set you apart from the rest of the crowd or make up for your grades/ scores, and think that the legacy aspect (or the fact that your parents work at the schools) will be your strongest point for getting admittance. That’s not to say that you shouldn’t apply; after all, you never know until you try.</p>
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<p>You are also competing against students who went to schools that are not prestigious yet still managed to outscore you on standardized testing. I think that would work against you.</p>
<p>Luckily for you, you were born with a hook so I think you probably will wind up at one of those schools. While there, try to remember that most kids there earned their way in without Mom or Dad’s connections/legacy status. It might help with your attitude, which could use an adjustment towards the humble.</p>
<p>Actually to let you sgt, I know many individuals who have gone to all of the ivies. My hs gets at least one kid into each of those schools each year. And I can assure you that they outshine you in every category. I do as well. And for your info I got a 36 on the act, a 790 on us, 800 math ii, as well as many 5s on ap tests. I also have a perfect gpa. I also have way more useful and meaningful extracurriculars. I understand that I don’t have a great chance at those schools, because it is a crapshoot. So please don’t get all mad at my comments, I have to be blunt and tell you the truth.</p>
<p>Let’s face it, kids like him usually get what they want. I’m not saying it’s good or bad–it is what it is. He has more than just a legacy, and it will help him. Other kids being more impressive than him is a moot point.</p>
<p>Oookay let’s all take a deep breath now.</p>
<p>Sgtbonobo: Let me explain what’s going on. You came here and posted a chance thread (in the wrong subforum, by the way) that didn’t really have much chance-able material in it. Saying things like “Anyways I was hoping people could give me like a percent chance of those schools kindof thing” just makes you sound immature and childish. Then you go and defend your GPA, and oh by the way you’re Ivy league legacy. What you see is a lot of bitterness and anger at your attitude and the fact that you’ve been given opportunities the rest of us can only dream of. </p>
<p>That being said, your chances aren’t nearly as bad as everybody makes them seem. Sure they’re not great, but you’ve got a shot. There’s absolutely nothing more that any of us can say about your situation. We simply don’t know. We don’t work for the Ivies, and we don’t know what your complete application will look like. Strat94 is being a jerk, but what he’s saying is also kinda true. </p>
<p>Strat94, quit being a jerk. You’re no more qualified than the OP to assess his chances. You’re being unnecessarily condescending and harsh and sometimes just plain wrong. I’m not going to post them here, but you can look at my stats in my old posts if you want, just so you won’t condescend me as well. I looked at your other posts and you seem to be very negative overall. Smile a little.</p>
<p>"Please chance me! "</p>
<p>Based on what you posted and assuming top-tier essays and teacher recs, I would give you a 40+% chance SCEA (for schools that take about 9% of their applicants). - JMHO</p>
<p>I’m sorry if I’m coming off to hard or ring a jerk. But everything I said is correct and I just want you to realize that you need to look at other schools.</p>
<p>Okay well put it this way, if your at Phillips academy andover, Exeter, the school in NY the trump kids wentmto, i forgot the name lol, Trinity school, Roxbury, the spence school, you have a very good shot. Those schools and similar are at the elite of the elite and have a ivy league pipeline of 40’percent. They obv have this high percentage because they have 150 kids Peru graduation class. In order to get accepeted you dad has to own coca cola, and the administration uses connections to get their students with special privileges to elite colleges. When you pay the 50000 dollar price tag a year those rich parents who are socially political in society are going to make sure there kids get in some where pretty good.</p>
<p>Now if you are at a good private but not as elite as those prep schools the Rockefeller kids go to, then you don’t have a easy pass into Harvard. Yes money and elitism still buys your way in. I’m not talking about doctor lawyer rich. I’m talking about Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Kennedy, Rockefeller, coca cola, bill gates etc. I mean Vera wangs daughter goes to upenn. Obv she has an automatic pass pretty much</p>
<p>And those of us who aren’t in this class of society are in the lottery pool. Even having a net worth alum status million dollars doesnt cut it anymore for a acceptance.</p>
<p>Oh and legacies are deff peoples parents who went to grad and medical school for Harvard. If anything Harvard loves their grad students times ten their undergrad and treats them much better, because that’s where the research is at! That’s where there money and notoriety comes from when they do all experiments and thesis’</p>
<p>Read about a kid with 1.0 GPA freshman year and raised it to 4.0 and got into an Ivy. But then again he played sports and etc.</p>