chance me for stern please

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<p>CHANCE ME PLEASE: NYU STERN
Some questions at the end</p>

<p>I go to a school that’s not very competitive, does not rank, and opened only 3 years ago. I will be the 3rd graduating class of 2008. probably top 5% to 10%. There aren’t many AP classes as well. I know my chances are slim, but just asking for advice.
Background: came to the US at age 8. no APs, but taking one in senior year. [there’s only two AP classes in my school]. Self studying senior year to take ap calc bc and statictics/micro/macro</p>

<p>GPA 3.8+
SAT: 1860
M 690
R: 540 >.<
W:630</p>

<p>SAT2; didn’t take yet, will take in October.
IIC : 700+
Physics: 700+</p>

<p>EC:
Freshman
Student government rep
Oversea Chinese mission [a center for kids]: volunteer
Math club
Honor roll
Traveled to china
Summer: OCM NYC legal services
Studied stocks during leisure with my dad</p>

<p>Soph:
Student gov
Ocm official teacher [afterschool and summer]
Math club
Park cleanup in the winter
Breast cancer work volunteer
Math science center [school club to tutor kids that need help in math/science]
Traveled to cali to look at colleges
Honor roll
Taekwondo champ</p>

<p>Summer:
OCM
NYC Legal Services [ a law firm that I worked as an intern]
Guitar and piano lessons</p>

<p>Junior:
Student gov
Track club
Math club
Math TA[ teacher assistant to math teacher]
Math/sci center
Initated FBLA chapter as president [will start senior year]
Honor roll
Fall semester I took NYU calculus I classes at Steinhardt [will this give me a boost?] only three students in new york can get into the classes [rec by guidance counselor]
Taking calc 2 at nyu in the fall 2007.</p>

<p>Summer junior year: oxford business [some volunteer thing that needs interview and all that to get into their program]
Merrill Lynch philanthrophy program [30 out of several thousands in the U.S. and London, a program where you travel outside to meet with the CEOs of various companies, will this give me a boost for stern?]
OCM teacher official
Taekwondoe
Breakdance
NYC Legal services</p>

<p>Recs: all pretty amazing b/c counselor likes me a lot
One from math teacher that I’m very close with for 2 years.
One from English teacher who likes me a lot as well.</p>

<p>Essay: about an abacus… lol</p>

<p>How are my chances at NYU stern? </p>

<p>Should I retake my SATs in November and not apply early decision for NYU stern? Or should I apply early decision with a 1860 ?
Note:
I can’t take SATs in nov because I signed up for SAT2s in October.</p>

<p>Let’s say I retake my SATs in November and score a 2000 +, would that put me in the range of applicants for regular decision?</p>

<p>In your opinion, should I apply early decision or retake SATs?</p>

<p>Do colleges take into consideration what little resources I have at my school?</p>

<p>Thank you all for the long read… if possible please give me any advice/answer my questions.</p>

<p>P.S> sorry for all the spelling errors/ punctuation etc, didnt have the time to revise it. thanks in advance.</p>

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<p>bump (10char) </p>

<p>can someone chance me please?</p>

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<p>I've done a lot of chances threads in the past and I've come to realize how stupid they are. There is no point in them. If assurance is what you want then do meaningful stuff that could get you into NYU. If you hadn't F***ed up on the reading on the SAT, then I would say a very good shot. But your reading score makes you seem like a weak candidate - which you're not.</p>

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<p>I'll be very direct in this because other than your SATs, I dont see a major problem with your application. 1860 is quite low for Stern...your CR+math=1230 when Stern's median is 1441 so thats almost 200 points lower. I would recommend raising your score to at least 2100 to be at a very comfortable position but again with top schools like Stern its always a crapshoot...kids with 2000 get in and kids with 2300 dont. Good luck!</p>

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<p>thanks for the help. </p>

<p>would you recommend ED? or should i retake SATs instead of ED?</p>

<p>if i ED, then i can't take SATs over b/c i have to take SAT2s in oct. </p>

<p>thanks agian.</p>

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<p>bumpppppppppppppppppppp (10chr)</p>

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<p>Your ECs are very impressive. GPA is good. SATs are your weak point as you know. I'd recommend you retake them and try to get 2000+, obviously the higher the better. </p>

<p>To answer your question about them considering the lack of resources you had, they'll only do so if there's something about that in your school profile or your essay. Otherwise, they probably won't even know about it.</p>

<p>The best advise I could give you is to have a really strong essay. As canadian1989 said, it's a crapshoot. I'm not trying to be cruel, but with your stats (assuming you raise your SAT score) you're probably going to be placed in the "maybe" pile when your application is initially read. The deciding factor there is your largely your essay (with emphasis on your ability to construct an argument and keep the admissions person awake, keep in mind they each read hundreds if not thousands of these) and then the recommendations you received which seem solid. </p>

<p>Hope this helped. Good luck.</p>

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<p>thanks for the advice thiswilldo, certainly helped me out a lot.</p>

<p>sorry , so if i retake them, does that mean i shouldnt go for ED?</p>

<p>aside from the lack of resources part, can i state that i had personal problems [bad stomach] during several SAT/SAT2s tests because of nervous breakdowns? do i state this in my essay as well?
for the school profile, do i get my counselor to write that the school has poor resources and i had bad stomachaches during the tests?</p>

<p>thanks a lot for the help.
bump. as wel.</p>

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<p>I think you should retake your SATs instead of applying ED...I think if you applied ED as is you wouldn't get in..definitely work hard to bring your CR up. Your ECs are all very good. Also, don't talk about your stomachaches...it sounds too much like whining and making excuses, which would be detrimental to your application. If you're going to discuss a lack of school resources, request your GC to write about this in the school report; you shouldn't take it upon yourself to talk about this. Again, coming from the applicant it would sound like more excuses, but they'd listen to it more coming from a GC. Hope this helps, and good luck.</p>

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<p>Don't apply ED, the competition in ED is a lot more fierce than competition in regular decision. I think you have good shot if you retake your SAT and apply RD.</p>

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<p>I agree completely with mpwalker.</p>

<p>If I remember correctly, if you get rejected early decision at NYU you can't apply again during the regular decision cycle. If I'm right about that, don't apply ED, retake your SATs and try to get them to the 2000+ point. </p>

<p>When I said have a strong essay, I didn't mean you had to change yours. Writing about an abacus is fine as long as it's a good essay. Unless you want to do an overcoming adversity type essay (which I don't recommend because it's generic and a lot of people do it but if you feel like you can make it stand out go for it; remember you want something that will keep the admissions counselors attention and hopefully something they won't forget as soon as they put it down), don't talk about your personal problems extensively. That being said, you do want them to get a sense of who you are through your essay.</p>

<p>The stuff about the school not having a lot of resources should be in the school profile, don't waste space in your essay about it unless you do that overcoming adversity thing. As far as I know, (almost) every school has a 1-2 page document that they insert in the transcript package that talks about the school, it's rankings, etc. If your school doesn't, have your counselor whip something up along those lines and make sure it mentions that the school is new, doesn't have a lot of resources, doesn't offer many AP classes and so forth. Then in his/her your counselor can talk about how you were able to achieve what you did despite your personal problems. I'd stay away from doing that myself. Honestly, I'd stay away from the stomach aches thing all together because, as mpwalker said, it sounds too much like an excuse, but I don't know the severity of your condition and I don't mean to make light of it. </p>

<p>Keep in mind, this is ultimately your decision. I don't think anyone on this board is an admissions counselor so we're all just guessing here.</p>

<p>Feel free to post/pm more questions if you have them.</p>

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<p>Wait... ED ought to be easier than RD. RD is when all of us also applying to the Ivies applied to Stern. :S</p>

<p>But I agree... because you don't have time to retake the SATs and get the scores in time for the ED deadline, your best plan is to just retake the SATs and apply RD.</p>

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<p>thanks for the advice.
jogged everyone's advice down.</p>

<p>btw welcome to cc , thiswilldo. 6 posts and already this helpful. you're amazing.</p>

<p>thank you all! </p>

<p>RD is easier than ED? hmmm. thanks, i almost made the wrong choice by planning to apply ED.</p>

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<p>Is it alright if I dont have any honors/awards? The only award was from accomplishments in taekwondoe [martial arts], dance, and honor roll </p>

<p>should i even bother listing tkd and dance? thanks in advance again.
sorry for asking so many questions!</p>

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<p>Hmm... awards are pretty important. Regional, state-wide, or national awards are best, but even small ones are better than nothing. And if you've done tkd and dance for a long time, I would list them.</p>

<p>Again, I don't think RD is easier than ED. ED students are pretty much set on Stern, while the RD pool is holding out for HYP and the like. Obviously, some ED students have the stats as well to apply for the Ivies, but the overall acceptance rate for ED is higher, I believe. However, like the others, I recommend not applying ED unless you can get better SAT scores before the deadline. Otherwise, take the test again and apply RD.</p>

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<p>thanked ijalin89, will take your advice.</p>

<p>do you have any idea where these people are getting the regional,state-wide,national awards?</p>

<p>i never heard of any of these awards and my school is new and small so they dont hear about it either.</p>

<p>is there a site where i can send stuff in to get these awards? like a paper/essay. etc</p>

<p>thanks again..</p>

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<p>Ok about this whole RD/ED which is easier thing. ED/EA (early action - same as ED except it's not binding) was created to give admissions counselors a break. Because a percentage of students applies ED, there are fewer applications during the RD cycle and the admin people don't have to read as many applications in that short time. Therefore, as an incentive to get more people to apply early, ED applicants are generally said to be given more slack. </p>

<p>However, because they only have a small percentage of applications, the admin people don't have a full picture of what the applicant pool will be like and with fewer people to compare, the guidelines for who's accepted is looser.</p>

<p>Typically, it is easier to get accepted through ED than through RD. However there are (rare) years when this isn't the case because of that whole class snapshot thing (i.e. the average SAT scores of ED applicants was a lot higher than the average SAT of RD applicants).</p>

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<p>Well, because your school is new, you can explain that on your application, and the admissions officers will take that into consideration. However, there are some things on sites like fastweb.com and such, but you'll have to work fast (and hard) to get those awards before the end of December.</p>

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<p>thanks for the great help onec again , ijalin89 and thiswilldo</p>

<p>if there are any further advice, please let me know!</p>

<p>thanks in advance guys.</p>

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<p>sorry but scholarships are considered awards? arent they only meant for paying college with scholarships?</p>

<p>sorry dont really understand this scholarship thing.</p>