Did you list your ECs on the submitted applications as you did here? If so…I would strongly suggest that you delete the ones that are out of your scope of practice here…for all other applications you plan to submit.
And…I agree with others…you need some better sure thing choices…with a NOT exaggerated list of ECs.
Just wondering… What was exaggerated on my EC’s?
Likelihood of BS/MD admission is quite low, approaching zero. Your grades, GPA and SAT are all on the very low end for admission, especially for a ORM.
If you really want a guaranteed early admission to med school, consider applying to some BS/DO programs.
I strongly recommend you revise your activity descriptions and leave out many of the things you listed above because they are unethical and exploitative and will get you blackballed from any med school in the US.
Physicians are expected to have cultural humility (one of the 15 expected competencies for pre-meds)–and your actions display hubris and pride in your exploitation of those less fortunately than yourself.
Assisting with surgery. Prescribing eyecare. Led thousands of eye screenings. Frankly these sound like predatory practices in a third world country…and you were NOT licensed or trained to do these things.
Who helped you write this list?
Oh…and again I ask…was the first author paper already published in a well regarded publication with good review? If not…I wouldn’t list that either.
a college admissions officer
I am really concerned about your EC’s and unlicensed practices. Those of us who have medical licenses have spent thousands of hours in observation and a lot of hours in the study of the anatomy and physiology of the body.
I am a California licensed medical professional, but I am not a physician. The kinds of things that you have described, Are not even allowed by nursing staff, and are things that are liable for medical malpractice. In my field, I had to have medical malpractice insurance. I don’t know of any physician that would put his medical license on the line to supervise a high school student in the use of sutures.
I observed surgeries for cleft palates in remote locations and also assisted the nursing staff. But when I was asked to help, the only thing I could do was help with phlebotomy, because I was Professionally trained and certificated. I was not allowed to make an any kind diagnosis, to anyone about anything because I knew my place. I didn’t have a medical license.
Applying to med school, in the future, does not bode well because you don’t have an issue publicizing this information. This is going to come out eventually, in one of your interviews, and it will raise some serious questions about your ability to gauge moral and ethical practices.
Every paper is in progress. I am almost done writing the papers, and they should be submitted in the next two weeks.
A college andmission advisor suggested you list things that require training and a license to do? Oh come on.
If you plan to be a doctor, you need to have your own moral compass, sense of ethics, and knowing the difference between right and wrong.
One only lists papers once they have been submitted to a journal. (And not a “pay for publication” journal either. A reputable one.) That’s the standard academic practice.
Papers are listed as: submitted (with a date of submission plus name of journal), under review (once you’re notified that your paper has been sent to a referee for review, name of journal), under revision ( when a journal editor requests a rewrite to address issues raised by a reviewer, name of journal), in press (when a paper has been accepted for publication but hasn’t yet appeared publicly, includes anticipated publication date and name of journal), and published (includes date of publication and name of journal.
Most papers submitted for publication are rejected. Nearly all go through one or more rounds of revision even if they are accepted.
My younger daughter published a paper on a somewhat controversial topic in her specialty and her paper went through 9 rounds of reviews/revision before t was finally published. The process took close to a year.
My opinion…until they are accepted and published…not listed. Because frankly…that may never happen.
Oh, seriously do not bother with Duke, Emory, Hopkins, Rice, UNC, Upenn and Vanderbilt. You do not have stats for those programs.
UGA, GSU should be no problem.
Gatech is very iffi but may work again only because you are GA resident.
I know it sounds to you like everything was harmless. Doing good for those in need. Cutting and suture can be taught to anyone, even a monkey. The hard part about being a surgeon is knowing when NOT to operate.
Just imagine if during one of your surgical incisions, you accidentally lacerated a major artery. Patients can bleed out in seconds. I’ve seen it myself. You wouldn’t have known what to do, and by the time you got help the patient would have died. There are loads of peril under the skin that are invisible to the untrained: nerves, arteries, veins. Even the best surgeons make mistakes at times. I can’t even imagine having a high school student, who knows almost nothing about human anatomy to perform these types of procedures.
And until they have been peer reviewed, there is no way to gauge the quality of the data or the analysis/conclusions. It could all be nonsense - until either peer review, publication in a reputable journal, or most commonly, both.
He must document this. Unless he thinks AOs are naive???
Aside from Kenya and the publication issues, is there anything else wrong with my app?
Online shadowing is pretty worthless as an EC for medical programs. It’s the weakest possible EC for med school consideration. Many adcomm consider virtual shadowing absolutely worthless.
Attending a symposium is pretty useless as an EC. It’s something anyone can do. Only worth listing if you presented a poster or talk.
I would ditch your online shadowing. It is not well regarded by medical schools.
You know…it sounds like you think more is better and it isn’t.
that stuff is at the bottom of my additional info section. I highly doubt it will see the light of day.
You need to put what is actually realistic and important…you have a LONG list and like I said…you seem to think more is better, and it’s not.
What colleges do you think I should apply to?