Chance me! (Junior, high colleges)

<p>I’m a NON-white Junior in high school. I know my GPA and ECs are terriblr, but chance me anyways please!</p>

<p>In competitive public high school.
School doesn’t class rank.
GPA: 3.72
School doesn’t weight APs, not sure what my weighted GPA is.</p>

<p>AP Classes:
Sophomore: AP US History
Junior: AP Physics B, AP Stats, AP Microeconomics, AP Comparative Politics
Senior (registered, not taken): AP Macroeconomics, AP Government, AP Literature and Composition, AP Language and Composition, College Accounting (AP), AP European History</p>

<p>AP Exams (Score):
AP US History (3), AP Stats (?), AP Micro (?), AP Comparative Politics (?), AP US Government – self studied (?)……..Wish me luck! ^_^
Will probably take exams of most of the classes that I’ll be taking senior year with the possible addition to self studying AP psychology</p>

<p>SAT: Ranging around a 2200 on practice test
Haven’t taken SAT II – going to take math, English, and maybe history
Haven’t taken ACT</p>

<p>EC:
Newspaper writer: Junior year only
Debate Team: Sophomore, Junior and next senior year.
National Honor Society – Junior year, possible senior year
Tutoring – Physics, statistics
Taught at a school in India over the summer (40 hrs)
Regular volunteering (30 hrs, I know crappy…)
Tutoring underclassmen and underprivileged club
Possibly going to start a business or non profit in the near future (probably beginning of senior year)
Currently writing a philosophy paper, publishing it to some journals and apply for Davidson scholarship</p>

<p>Hooks: non white
Possibly taking college courses instead of HS for senior year
Pretty good writer (essays will be fine)
Almost fluent in Hindi and Gujarati</p>

<p>Going into double major: engineering/comp. science</p>

<p>Colleges: Cornell
Stanford
UPenn
Illinois Urbana-Champaign
USC
Northwestern
UChicago</p>

<p>Know any colleges that would be suitable for me with what I have?</p>

<p>Thanks all, I’ll chance you back!</p>

<p>You GPA isn’t bad, SAT is alright. Your lack of ec’s may be detrimental, try to show passion (intern at business firm)? Your AP courses are rigorous enough.<br>
Overall, ivies are a reach for everyone, and you are strong candidate except for your extracurriculars of course.</p>

<p>Woot, my Indian homie. I just saw your (or your cousin’s) thread and noticed that one of you published an article for Harvard Business Review</p>

<p>How hard is to get things published, how long was yours, and do you have the articlename so I can look it up.</p>

<p>I’m actually going to one of the most presitgeous debate camps this summer so internship is a no go.</p>

<p>bump…anyone?</p>

<p>I don’t really have anything to add other than your "non-white"ness isn’t a hook… I’m pretty sure Indians are considered Asian. :slight_smile: Make sure you take those SATs soon. I would say that it’s kind of risky waiting this long</p>

<p>^
Taking it in June</p>

<p>Trying to get something published to a law review</p>

<p>Does that help/can I list that in am app?</p>

<p>I don’t have the article name, but my cousin will be putting it out in an issue next year (the paper passed reviews but needs proofreading =)). He said he has too much on his plate right now especially with his job and soon to come application process, but he will have a professor he worked with write a recommendation as well as a guy in Harvard business school to put a letter that the paper was indeed accepted. As soon as the thing is put into an issue, I’ll pm you. </p>

<p>What debate camp, if you don’t mind my asking?</p>

<p>Indian is considered Asian and Caucasian, so that could actually be an anti-hook. Your stats look good, but your GPA could bring you down. But GPA isn’t everything so who knows… Good luck :)</p>

<p>Colleges: Cornell- Reach
Stanford- High Reach
UPenn- Reach
Illinois Urbana-Champaign- Match
USC-High match
Northwestern- Low Reach
UChicago- Low reach</p>

<p>GPA hurts you and you dont have anything outstanding really (published paper would be good).
chance me back =D
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1137786-chance-junior-vandy-davidson-stanford-more-will-chance-back.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1137786-chance-junior-vandy-davidson-stanford-more-will-chance-back.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>sorry, can someone tell me what the differences between high reach, low reach, math, high match etc. are? sorry, im new to this</p>

<p>High Match/Low Reach etc are posters ways of trying to expand the scale of possible outcomes. An applicant who’s a high match/low reach is someone who has good stats for a school but not overwhelming - e.g., you’re somewhere around the 25th-30th %tile for a school. You fit the profile statistically but there are a lot of other candidates who will be stronger. </p>

<p>Asian/Indian background in engineering is not a hook, if anything it’s an “over-represented” minority.</p>

<p>As for your list, since UIUC is on there I’ll assume you’re an Illinois resident. With a 2200 SAT and a 700+ Match SAT I’d guess that would be your safety school. Though I’d look for another one that’s a bit easier to get into just in case (Iowa?).</p>

<p>Stanford will be a rejection. Their acceptance rate is below 10% and rumored this year to be around 6%. Personally I think any profile below a 3.9/2350 national award winning applicant is a waste of application fee. </p>

<p>The rest of your schools are all pretty tough to get into. Of the five remaining I’d guess you might be accepted at 1 or 2, (probably Northwestern and/or USC). Northwestern is the “easiest” with a roughly 25% acceptance rate, but 85% of accepted students are in the top 10% of their class and the 75th%-tile of SATs there is 2300. USC has around a 20% admit rate, but according to their web-site that average admit has a 3.8 UW/2190. Plus this fall they are switching to the common app, if they have an application increase similar to Michigan’s (+20%) then the admit rate would drop into the high teens. </p>

<p>My point isn’t to discourage you but to suggest that you add some schools with less rigorous admissions hurdles. Personally I’d drop Chicago and one of Penn, Cornell and Northwestern and then add places like Iowa, Purdue or University of Miami.</p>

<p>Honestly I think people on this site exist merely to scare off their competition.</p>

<p>It may seem that way ProudP, but I’m constantly amazed by students and parents who have no real clue as to how tough it is to get into big name colleges these days. Applicants have limited resources especially in time and money. It just strikes me that the best strategy is to concentrate on putting together a group of exceptional applications not a shopping cart full of potentially hopeless ones. That means having a reasonable number of safety, match and reach schools. Go to collegesearch.collegeboard.com and type in your favorite schools and click on “How do I stack up?” Then check out the admission rates, if that’s not sobering enough, take a peek at these school generated links. </p>

<p>[Applicant</a> Profile : Stanford University](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/basics/selection/profile.html]Applicant”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/basics/selection/profile.html)
<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/1011/FreshmanProfile2010.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/1011/FreshmanProfile2010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>

<p>I don’t care if you’re at the 75th%-tile for these schools, if only 1 in 7 applications get in you’d better have a back-up plan.</p>

<p>@RipeBannana Sorry, I’m not a native to the land, I’m Indian as in from Asia</p>

<p>@Vince Yes, I’ve realized by now that indian going to engineering is probably not even a monority. I’m actually not loving in illiniois, the reason i have inerest is because they have the best engineering school outsde of ivies, stanford, mit, caltech, carnegie mellon. Yes, I know my gpa is the reason im worrying and my ecs arenttoo ot. Anything I could do to improve?</p>

<p>Do something unique. Hone or develop programming skills, work for local computer science company (or any company), or get published. Tall orders, but they’ll make you stand out.</p>

<p>Also, neither of my parents went to college in the US</p>

<p>Both of them only have bachelors degrees</p>

<p>Do you think this would give me a boost?</p>

<p>The post that really got to me was the one calling U of Chicago a “reach” for the OP. </p>

<p>The OPs SAT will be right where the U says it should be. The OPs 3.72 UW average is very good considering the academically rigorous curriculum listed. </p>

<p>3 years of debate is pretty strong as is his/her experience TEACHING in a foreign country. How many of you have attempted to teach OR to have a paper published?</p>

<p>I see this as trying to get rid of the competition.</p>

<p>Wow, thanks Proudpatriot!
That would be awesome if I could get to UChicago, tuition is a bit pricey, but we’ll see!</p>

<p>@ProudPatriot while the OP has really good stats, with a 3.72 UW GPA, UChicago could very well be considered a reach, though more likely a low reach. I know people with 3.9s and 4.0s that didn’t get in… Unfortunately, such is the admissions game nowadays; old safeties have become new targets, old targets have become new reaches…</p>