Chance Me, not really sure where I fall, top student at a low level school [PA resident, 3.92 GPA, 1440 SAT, top 3% rank, <$70k; biomedical engineering]

Many engineers don’t even work in engineering.

Pursue your dream educationally and you’ll end up where you belong.

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Not an engineering expert. It came up on the abet search.

But UMD says this. I do think the student may find a school to work with in regards to the specific interest which is very focused. But it will require research.

The Fischell Department of Bioengineering at the University of Maryland is the home of an emerging academic discipline, exciting interdisciplinary degree programs, and faculty and students who want to make a difference in human health care through education, research, and invention.

I just want to second that if $120K is your parental income you could qualify for some need-based aid at private schools, and you should definitely have your parents run the NPCs for the schools of interest to check. (It might depend on family size and assets, but my family income is 50% bigger than yours and my son last year got about 20K need based aid at BU, for example.)

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If you will just Google and compare the 4-year plan at UMD with 4 year plan at GaTech you will see the difference. They have very different emphases.

I don’t want to debate bio vs bio medical as I’m not qualified but Rice has a Bio Engineering degree and notes it’s a top bio/biomedical program.

I bring it up because it has the Rice Investment.

Assuming income of $75K - $140K and normal assets, tuition would be free.

According to the school, outcomes include:

Our alumni work in a variety of specialized areas, including - see 2nd from the bottom.

It’s an example of a school - and not the only - where your stated income would qualify you for aid.

  • Health care as a physician, physician-scientist, practitioner, or professional engaged in basic and clinical research;
  • Academic tenure-track and non-tenure-track positions in education and research, secondary education, and administration;
  • Industrial research and development in biomedical, health informatics and health IT;
  • Biotechnology, biopharmaceutical, and materials and manufacturing; or
  • Other sectors, such as law and finance that also require technical expertise and training.

If you are looking for internships, maybe add RIT to your list. It looks like an internship in the dental industry would be a possibility and they’ve had students do senior projects that relate to your goals.

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@sandyp8, I am not sure you will have enough time to add schools at this point (before Nov 1), which is why I purposely didn’t suggest any additional schools. At Purdue and UMD, for example, if you don’t apply EA it’s almost impossible to get in.

There are 4-5 schools on your list that I think you’ll be accepted at, and will be affordable. So you’re going to be fine.

I agree, worth checking. The Ivies, in particular are very generous with need based aid, but also very hard to get into.

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Dang. I didn’t realize the date. Yes it’s late. But if docs are in not impossible.

U of Cincinnati is also a co-op school, and GT and Purdue both have very robust optional co-ops. My D was a co-op student at Purdue (chem e) and it was an amazing experience. Here’s the link to Purdue’s program: Undergraduate Co-op - Office of Professional Practice - Purdue University

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Yes, maybe. And if applying test optional because there isn’t enough time to send an official score report even with expedited service, before Wednesday. I believe UMD requires an official report. Not sure about Purdue.

Purdue allows for self reporting but they expect the official report to eventually be sent.

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Dental school is very expensive, and typically means a lot of debt. Starting up or buying a dental practice will also add up front costs to starting a career as a dentist.

yeah, I 100% agree. I loved dentistry, but the COA for dental school was crazy. Most dental schools have you leaving with 400k+ in debt. Plus some debt from undergrad. Practice loans would be 600k-1M too. Seems like financial suicide to be a dentist nowadays.

Many careers and / or colleges attended would cause financial suicide - depending on the finances of the student.

You yourself started with wanting to attend a private school so you can get a good salary.

Some are $200k in debt undergrad so they can go to that private or elite public school.

To me, that’s financial suicide. Others can come out after spending $350k+ with no debt at all.

In most cases, one can get to the same place as another no matter where they went. They just may need to hustle a bit more to get there.

There’s tons of people who went to high level schools who write about how the debt they had to taken on was the worst thing they ever did.

So it’s good to think about debt. I thought you wanted to help develop dental care innovations.

If you want to be a dentist, you can go lots of schools, in state and out, that would be low cost options and just fine for grad school.

There are more cost efficient ways to achieve the ultimate goal.

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If the OP would be a valedictorian or salutatorian of his graduating high school class, then his chances of admission to Ga Tech as an OOS applicant would be improved. If he is not a val/sal, then I agree that his chances are remote.

With UMD it is tricky. You absolutely have to make sure that on your application it says TO, or they will be waiting for the official score and you will not be considered for EA if they will not receive the official score by Nov1. One of DD’s friends got into that trap and was not even accepted into UMD instate (She applied EA, but forgot to send scores… She was not accepted RD). She is in top 5 UC schools now :slight_smile:. I think this is crazy…UMD was her safety…

Just curious how with a (presumed) parental income of $120k that you’ve set a budget of $70k a year?
Are we missing a wealthy grandparent or something?

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My parents have been saving up for a while and my household income was near 200k for roughly 10 years. Just recently one of my parents quit their job and decided not to work bringing my income down to 120k. Hope that makes sense.

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How recently was the $200k a year income? It may indeed be relevant, as FAFSA and the CSS both use “prior prior” years’ taxes, meaning 2022 for this application season.

And are you a senior? Have you applied to all these schools already? Time is short.

You’ve got some great advice here and I know nothing about the “best” schools for your major, but my kid had almost identical stats, also from PA, and we had a much lower budget, and he is at Bama, his stone-cold safety school.

You don’t say if you have “vibe” preferences or regions or size preferences but you seem to be listing a lot of big schools, also city schools, so somewhat similar to my kid also. That ended up not mattering after he visited Bama, and he turned down Pitt, Temple, FSU, UofSC and others to go to Tuscaloosa.

Pitt is likely if you’ve already applied, but it can and does run out of space, even as a rolling admissions school.

I cannot speak to most of the others on your list but if you have post-grad plans I would go with the lowest COA possible. Your parents might have set aside a ton of money, but $280k for undergrad seems like it could be much better applied to post-grad costs, considering you have the stats to get undergrad costs well below $70k.

Good luck!

Pitt would be a great school for you. They have rolling admissions. Have you applied. If not you should get that App in right away.

Lafayette just increased their loan free need based awards to include families with income of less than 200k.

Obviously Pitt and Lafayette are very different school, size, location etc.

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