<p>Something to think seriously about…if you need financial aid, UC schools will only give you $9,000 a year if you are out of state. Tuition, room and board for out of staters at Berkely is $42K. It came down to Berkely and another school on the East Coast where my sister got $20K in financial aid…that made the difference. Think about it.</p>
<p>^Wow, there’s an edit button for a reason xD</p>
<p>Anyways, ECs will affect you, and in the scenario you listed its likely that person B would be accepted depending on how good his ECs really are. In reality, in state they’d both probably be accepted. How much ECs can boost you in a public school is probably not going to be as much as a private. If a competitive GPA to get into UCLA is hypothetically a 4.1, then having stellar ECs (someone floats the idea often that UCLA likes accepting ASB presidents) might give you maybe .2 or .3 GPA forgiveness conservatively speaking, with the rest relying on your SATs to bring up. However, you can’t expect EC’s to give you more than that in terms of lower GPA leeway. Test scores probably factor in much more than ECs in the case of public schools though, and as such if you had the choice between developing a healthy EC list to a stellar one as opposed to bumping a mediocre SAT score to a higher one, I’d be more inclined to do the latter.</p>
<p>Agree 100% - sorry got a little carried away.</p>
<p>Weighted GPA: 4.43
Unweighted: 3.93</p>
<p>Ranked: 5/938</p>
<p>SAT: 2140
SAT II Biology: 780
SAT II Math Level 2: 740</p>
<p>AP Euro History: 5 - AP Calc AB: 5 - AP Biology:5 - AP English Language: 5 - APUSH: 4 - AP Chemistry: 5 - AP Calc BC: 5 - AP Physics B: 5</p>
<p>Senior year courses:
AP Stats, AP English Lit, AP Psychology, AP Physics C, AP Gov, Bio - tech</p>
<p>Asian female attending large public high school in California
Took all honors/AP classes throughout high school</p>
<p>Extracurriculars:
ASB (2 years) - Marketing Commissioner, Vice President of Communications
Peer Counseling (3 years) - Vice President of Finance
Key Club (4 years) - Public Relations rep, President
Academic League (4 years) - Varsity; coordinated & organized regional tournaments
Piano (10 years) - MCAT Advanced Panel
Volunteers at local hospital in Nursing department (~ 100 hours)</p>
<p>tiffanylicious,</p>
<p>UCLA/Cal: Safe match</p>
<p>Something to think seriously about…if you need financial aid, UC schools will only give you $9,000 a year if you are out of state. Tuition, room and board for out of staters at Berkely is $42K. It came down to Berkely and another school on the East Coast where my sister got $20K in financial aid…that made the difference. Think about it.</p>
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<p>Ah yes, and there is a grim reality to actually being able to secure financial independence and then being able to apply for in-state tuition…</p>
<p>I just took the SAT’s this morning and I hope I got at least 2100…>.<</p>
<p>Pepper you talked a lot about EC’s. but how about the personal statement?</p>
<p>Also bump for relevancy +++ presence on board</p>
<p>Again, public university will entail a lot of number crunching. In my opinion, PS comes into play only if you have to address a deficiency in your SATs/GPA that isn’t readily apparent to the reader. For instance, if some major event occurred in sophomore year and your grades took a precipitous drop, then there would be relevance to your admissions if you could iterate that. I’m basing this off the UCSD points system, but I would hope that LA and Berkeley pay more attention to the PS, especially the part about something unique about you. While I wouldn’t necessarily think that, barring the situation I mentioned above, it would forgive a significantly lower SAT/GPA, it might be that final straw that could make or break someone’s chances.</p>
<p>tiffanylicious:</p>
<p>UCLA: Safe Match</p>
<p>Wow! safe match?
I should’ve stayed in cali 
g’luck to all..</p>
<p>Hello,
i would really appreciate it if you guys could “chance me” too 
Asian Girl from Central California</p>
<p>Applied to Bio-chem major</p>
<p>STATS</p>
<p>GPA : 3.8 Unweighted 4.3 Weighted</p>
<p>Rank : 10/456</p>
<p>SAT I: 1920</p>
<p>SAT II: Bio - 690, US History- 760, Math IIC - 560. </p>
<p>CLASSES</p>
<p>Freshman year-
Pre-Ib Health- A
Physics- (A and B )
Algebra 2 (A and B )
Pe- (A and B )
Honors English- A
Orchestra- A
French I- A</p>
<p>Sophomore Year-
Math Analysis AKA Pre-Calculus- (two Bs)
Biology- A
Honors English- A
French II- A
Orchestra- A
AP European History- A (5 on AP exam)</p>
<p>Junior Year- (All A’s in junior Year)
AP US History (5 on AP exam)
AP Biology (4 on AP exam)
AP English (5 on AP Exam)
Concert Orchestra
Math Analysis
Psychology
Frosh Mini essentials course- buisness, health</p>
<p>Senior Year
AP Government
AP Calculus
AP Literature
Honors Chemistry
Chamber Orchestra
Aerobics</p>
<p>EXTRA CURRICULARS</p>
<p>Piano - 10 Years
Violin - 10 Years
CODA all state honor orchestra
Modesto Symphony Youth Orchestra (5/6 years)
CMEA solo/ensemble festival- 2 command performances
Concertmistress of school orchestra for 3 years
Outstanding Musician Award Forum Festival</p>
<p>School clubs
Photography Club- one year
Asian Club- One year
French club- One year, secretary
Orchestra club/council- 4 years, secretary 2 years, president one year</p>
<p>Volunteering
Hospital Ambassador- Not too many hours actually, around 80
Rotary Club translator in Korea
Mission trips to various orphanage locations in Korea
I play the violin for the hospitals during holidays
Church Orchestra</p>
<p>Other
Pitman Pride Award (2)- given by school for performance
AP Scholar with honor</p>
<p>rainauraash:</p>
<p>UCLA: Slight Reach</p>
<p>Bring up thread…</p>
<p>Ah, I hope this puts my mind somewhat at ease…</p>
<p>GPA: UW 4.00; W 4.56
Rank: 9/938
Eligible for ELC</p>
<hr>
<p>SAT REASONING TEST</p>
<p>Date taken: 11/2006
Mathematics: 520, Critical Reading: 690, Writing: 670
Total = 1880</p>
<p>Date taken: 03/2007
Mathematics: 570, Critical Reading: 630, Writing: 620
Total = 1820</p>
<p>Date taken: 10/2007
Mathematics: 650, Critical Reading: 630, Writing: 740
Total = 2020</p>
<p>Superscore = 2080</p>
<hr>
<p>SAT SUBJECT TESTS</p>
<p>Date taken: 06/2007
Chemistry: 660, Literature: 640, Math Level 2: 660</p>
<hr>
<p>ADVANCED PLACEMENT TESTS</p>
<p>Date taken: 05/2006
Psychology: 5</p>
<p>Date taken: 05/2007
Chemistry: 4
Calculus BC: 3; AB subscore: 4
English Language and Composition: 4
United States History: 4</p>
<hr>
<p>CURRENT COURSES</p>
<p>AP Biology
AP Government/ Honors Economics
AP Literature
AP Statistics
Contemporary Media
Lab assistant for a chemistry teacher</p>
<hr>
<p>AWARDS</p>
<p>Varsity letter in Academics (9, 10, 11)</p>
<hr>
<p>EXTRACURRICULARS</p>
<p>Copy editor of the school newspaper (10, 11, 12)
CSF (10, 11, 12)
NHS (12)</p>
<hr>
<p>VOLUNTEER WORK</p>
<p>Re-shelved books at the public library to ensure that they were properly organized according to the alphabet and Dewey Decimal system. (32+ hours)</p>
<p>Worked in the public library’s Homework Center from 3:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. to tutor elementary school students. (23 hours)</p>
<hr>
<p>I should probably mention that we don’t do much of anything in CSF and we haven’t had the opportunity to do anything in NHS. </p>
<p>Thank you in advance.</p>
<p>eh3322:</p>
<p>UCLA: Match</p>
<p><em>bump and sticky likeon ucb thread</em></p>
<p>Chances for an OOS? I’m female Pakistani
UW GPA: 3.67 (it was solid 3.71 until jr year, when i got 3 B’s instead of normally 2)
W GPA: 4.31</p>
<p>SAT Reasoning: 2170 (740 CR, 720 M, 710 W)
SAT II Math IIC: 760
SAT II World History: 700</p>
<p>AP Tests:
Gov’t/Pol: 3 (wahh)
World History: 5
Eng Lang: 5
Calc AB: 5</p>
<p>taking 5 AP classes as a senior, so I took about 9 in all</p>
<p>Current Courseload:
AP Calc BC
AP Latin IV
teacher aide, latin I
Bio AP
Physics C AP
English Lit. 12 AP
Orchestra</p>
<p>Extracurriculars/Other stuff:
2000-2008 Studying Flute/Private Flute instruction
? Have been playing since the fifth grade and most definitely intend to continue in college.
? Constitutes 3-4 hours of practicing each week.
2006-2007: Member of Howard County GT Orchestra</p>
<p>9th-11th Mt. Hebron High School Marching Unit and Concert Ensembles
10th: First Chair Flutist/Section Leader in Mt. Hebron Symphonic Band
11th: Primary Flute Soloist: Mt. Hebron Symphonic Winds</p>
<p>12th:Mt. Hebron High Orchestra/Self Teaching Violin</p>
<p>Summer 2006 Pre-calculus Course at Local Community College</p>
<p>2006-Present Mt. Hebron High School Math Team
2007: Tied for first place in Division A, County level</p>
<p>11th-12th: National Honor Society
10th-12th: National Latin Honor Society
9-12: JSA Debate Club</p>
<p>HONORS AND AWARDS</p>
<pre><code> 2004-Present Superior Rating in Regional Solo/Ensemble Festival for each year
</code></pre>
<p>2004 ?2006 Summa Cum Laude (Gold Medal) in Annual International Latin Examination
2004-2007 Honor Roll for Excellence in Academics
2006 Mt. Hebron Marching Unit?s Most Improved Player
2006 Excellent Rating in State Solo/Ensemble Festival
2007 Recognition of three-year service to the Marching Unit
2007 Superior Rating in State Solo/Ensemble Festival
2007 AP Scholar with Honor
2007 National Merit Scholarship Program ? Letter of Commendation
2007 Maxima Cum Laude (Silver Medal), Annual International Latin Exam</p>
<p>lol big post, sorry for that. I believe that was what I put on my application when I sent it. Honestly, how good of a chance do I have, since i live in Maryland? I feel like I have been getting all kinds of different numbers after doing a lot of research, and it’s killing me D< I also am applying to Northwestern, CMU, pittsburgh and UMD. I applied to UPenn early but didn’t get in :[</p>
<p>^Slight Reach (OOS)</p>
<p>I’m a male in cali. I go to a top 100 high school, which is extremely competitive</p>
<p>UC GPA: 3.85 (very low during the first semester of soph year. due to personal issues)
UWGPA: 3.56</p>
<p>SATI (CR: 570; M: 780; WR: 620) Total: 1970
SATII Math: 770
SATII Chinese: 790
SATII Physics: 650</p>
<p>AP Tests: Calc BC:5 Stats: 4 CS: 4 (My school doesn’t offer as many APs)</p>
<p>Senior courses:
AP Gov/Econ,
Engineer Tech
Contemp Lit
College Lvl Microecon
College Lvl Macroecon
College Lvl Financial Accounting I
College Lvl Financial Accounting II
College Lvl Calc 1C
College Lvl English</p>
<p>Intern:
Summer intern at Beijing Olympics</p>
<p>Extracurricular:
Currently, a leader of a Chinese-American WWII Veteran Legacy project held in Oakland and San Jose
Project leader of San Jose Digital Clubhouse Network 11-12
Executive Producer of the Stories of Service Program @ San Jose 11-12
Associate Producer of the Youth Health Advocate Program @ Santa Clara 11-12
Key Club Officer 10-12 in school</p>
<p>Awards:
Presidential Gold Service Award
Community Historian Award
Scholastic Achievement Award from Joe Coto
Certificate of Recognition from Joe Coto
AP Scholar Award
Key Club officer Award</p>
<p>Essays:
I talked about maturity. I did shoplifting during the first semester of my sohpomore year. I was a really bad student who had no visions of future and was completely aimless, which is the reason for my horrible grades in my first 2 years of highschool. And as you may notice, most of my extracurriculars happened during my Junior and Senior year. Anyways, on the essay, I talked about how I realized all the negative effects that I had caused in my society, so I confessed my burglary actions and paid back everything I stole. As the result, my school principle gave me very minor punishments. I also focused a lot on how I changed my direction from the old me, and actually started setting goals for myself, trying in school, and repaying the society. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>