<p>(sorry if this is in the wrong forum)</p>
<p>Lets see... HS Junior.</p>
<p>SAT: 1980 [taking again june 2nd]
SAT II: US History- 740 [still need to take others]
ACT: taking June 9th</p>
<p>3.9ish GPA [still climbing, I'm aiming to graduate in the "top 10" out of 330+]</p>
<p>EC:
Field Hockey 3 years
Operation Smile 3 years [leadership position 2 years, attended summer 2006 international conference]
MUN [founder/president]
Mock Trial
Special Olympics 3+ years
University of Pennsylvania Health System summer volunteer [3 years]
Varsity Wrestling Manager
Elementary School Field Day volunteer
Finalist for NJ Governor's School of Public Issues and the future of NJ
A in Community College Chemistry taken over the summer
Just accepted into an "Urban Teacher Academy" for this summer</p>
<p>-All honors/AP classes [where available] achieving A's and B's throughout
-8 years in a private quaker school in philadelphia [preK-6th grade]
-7th-12th grade in a Public NJ high school.
-Double legacy [Penn]
-Faculty Kid [Penn]</p>
<p>Bottom line:I'm pretty average, I slacked off for most of 9th-10th grades with B's and some A's in honors level classes, but I performed a big academic turn-around junior year achieving straight A's in AP level classes. I'm kind of a hippie with a lot of interest in humanism and civil liberties. I dont really know what else to say, basically I'm a WASP-y kid [with a story to tell] that's really interested in Penn.</p>
<p>*also if it carries any merit, my grandmother and all of her sisters were members of the tri-delta sorority. [however, not at penn]</p>
<p>i'm planning on applying ED to CAS.</p>
<p>Get those SAT's up and you will have a good chance of getting in ED.</p>
<p>yeah especially if your AP scores are good.</p>
<p>I thought admissions was indifferent to AP scores?</p>
<p>well I've never heard that. and they can help compensate for lesser grades. For example getting a B in AP US History will look better if you get a 5 on the exam. It could indicate that it was a difficult course or at the very least that you had a good grasp on the material.</p>
<p> Universities will not consider APs during admission. They however, will consider AP courses taken. This shows that you are taking the most rigorous courses available to you. APs are used for receiving credits ONCE you're accepted and choose to enroll. </p>
<p>where did you hear this? The Yale regional admissions director gave a presentation at our school where he explicitly stated that if you don't send your AP scores adcoms will assume that they were bad and this will greatly count against you. He said it was always better to report AP scores. And they are used for admission purposes, because if you are getting all A's in your AP courses at some average public school but 3's on your exams it is probably a good indicator that your courses aren't all that rigorous. And sadly, this will hurt you. Think about it, all else being equal would you accept the kid who had all 5's on his 4 exams or the one that had all 3's?</p>
<p>If what you said in your last sent. was the case than why would they ask applicants to submit scores instead of just accepted students? The APs like the SATs are equalizers.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough he also said that if you send in supplemental materials like an extra rec or essay your file will be bigger and he tends to move bigger files to the bottom of the pile, meaning they get read later in the day when he is less likely to make admits. I can tell you this freaked a lot of people out, lol.</p>
<p>Unless you significantly improve your SAT I score, I'd say you'll be deferred ED.</p>
<p> addy189: If you ask all other schools, they will tell you the same answer I gave. Of course, if you do not have AP scores, you MIGHT be at a disadvantage, but remember, many schools do not offer AP courses. Yes, I agree with you that if there are two applicants left and one has AP scores and the other one does not, the one who has (good) AP scores will be at an advantage. Here are some of the replies I got.</p>
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We only use IB/AP test results to place you into classes after you have enrolled at Carnegie Mellon.</p>
<p>We do not use your IB/AP test results in the admission process, though we do pay close attention to your curriculum and grades.</p>
<p>Best regards from Carnegie Mellon's Office of Admission. </p>
<p>--</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting the Office of Undergraduate Admission at Stanford University.
Since AP courses are not available to all of our applicants, AP scores are not used as a determining factor in the admission process.
We have no preference at all between AP courses or the International Baccalaureate program, and find each to be equally strong and challenging assuming you apply yourself with energy and enthusiasm. </p>
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<p>so, I just recieved my SAT scores (round 2):</p>
<p>Critical Reading: 720
Math: 650
Writing: 680.</p>
<p>ehhhhh?</p>
<p>I'm probably going to take them for one last time in October, is this advisable?</p>
<p>As long as you study your butt off and score better :D</p>
<p>I'm doing the same :)</p>