Chance My Daughter

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<p>ACT Composite: 35/36 (Not intending to take SAT)</p>

<p>English: 35
Usage/Mechanics 18/18
Rhetorical Skills 17/18</p>

<p>Math: 35
PreAlg 18/18
Alg/Geom. 18/18
Plane Geom. 16/18</p>

<p>Reading: 34
Social Stud./Sc. 17/18
Art/Lit 18/18</p>

<p>Science: 36</p>

<p>Writing: 11</p>

<p>Class Rank: Technically school does not rank, but 1 or 2 out of 100. Competitive prep school in Florida. Ranking scholar award (highest gpa for the year 9th and 10th). Yale Book Award in 11th.</p>

<p>SAT II: 730 Chem; 710 Eng. Lit (In 9th grade took EBiology and got a 650). Will take Math 2C in October.</p>

<p>AP: Chem 5, AP Eng Lang 5, AP US History 4 (11th grade); AP G&P US 4 (1oth grade). Senior year registered for: AP BC Calc, AP Stats, AP Biology, AP Eng Lit, AP Spanish</p>

<p>GPA: 4.25. School technically does not weight, but gives .33 for +s and APs. Has gotten nothing less than an A since second grade.</p>

<p>Awards Grade</p>

<p>AP US History 11 Book award, for best student in subject
Honors Algebra II Award 10 Book award, for best student in subject
Economics Award 10 Book award, for best student in subject
Honors Geometry Award 9 Book award, for best student in subject
Honors Biology Award 9 Book award, for best student in subject</p>

<p>National Honor Society; Nat'l Merit Scholar Semifinalist, but might not take the SAT to reach finals.</p>

<p>2008 Florida State Spanish Team Competition Champions, and two individual awards </p>

<p>Sports:
Typically plays two sports a year, basketball captain last year and next year. Plays varsity volleyball and played lacrosse two years. Has a chance of being recruited, but disregard this.</p>

<p>Work and Summer Experiences Year Explanation</p>

<p>Benjamin Basketball Camp 11 Coach
Lighthouse Art Gallery 10,11 Volunteer, teacher
St. Jude Youth Camp Counselor 11 Bible school teacher
Habit for Humanity 10 Volunteer teacher
Babysitting 9,10,11 Various people and as needed</p>

<p>Florida Power & Light, Nuclear 2008 Paid nuclear and energy research intern. Research on energy alternatives, nuclear expansion, impact of rising sea levels, and use of gray and black water as source of cooling water.</p>

<p>FAU Applied Math/Cryptology Course 2008 Selected to 6 member class</p>

<p>Basketball Camps 2008 Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth
Brown University 2007 Pre-College program in Cryptology</p>

<p>-Interests and Activities Grades Title and explanations</p>

<p>Varsity Basketball 9,10,11,12 Captain (11,12), Honorable Mention (9,10)
-PAWS - Progressive Animal Welfare Society 10 President of Local Chapter, fundraiser animal shelter
-Human Rights Club Publicity Officer
-American Cancer Society Relay for Life 11 Captain, Advocacy Chair
-Palm Beach County Youth Leadership Board 11 Selected Member
-Travel Basketball 9,10,11,12 USSA Ladybucks
-Varsity Lacrosse 9,10 Coaches Award
-Varsity Volleyball 10,11,12<br>
-Special Olympics 10 Volunteer</p>

<p>Her brother is a 2012 recruited athlete.</p>

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<p>My question for you is:</p>

<p>Do you plan on putting two separate Dartmouth stickers on your car, or just the one?</p>

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<p>The assumption is that most of our automobiles have 1, and you are correct! My real question in throwing this out there is the SAT II scores and whether they are sufficient or whether she will need to retest.</p>

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<p>I am not familiar with the ACT and how it is analyzed and viewed by colleges; no idea what that 11 in Writing means. However, as you well know, the other aspects of your D's resume is outstanding, and of course she has as good of a chance for Dartmouth as anyone. Being out of the geographic loop will help a bit too. However, as you also know, many of the applicants to Dartmouth are also very strong, and many of them are not accepted. It's really a dice roll, though she is certainly in the running.</p>

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<p>The ACT writing is out of a 12. I don't know what it really means either. But, as mentioned above, the real gist of this post is the SAT IIs given the ACT subscores and other line items and whether she should retake. I understand that it is always about fit for the student and diversity/character for the school. She was under the impression that Dartmouth was way isolated, and her recent visit changed her mind. Tough to tell people this, they have to experience it themselves. As a parent, it may be obvious that we would like both kids at the same school. But, wherever, fit and being happy there is probably most important, assuming you can get in.</p>

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<p>If she were to have two Subject Test scores of 750 or more, the "Ts" would be crossed and the "Is" dotted. The present scores make me wonder about the strength of the program at her school, given she is a top student there.
I would spend the summer reading poetry and plan to retake the Literature Test in October. Good luck to her with the Math- that's an opportunity for sure.
Of course, I may be worrying too much.</p>

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<p>I think your SAT II scores are fine... but if you don't want them to be considered, don't send them! If you are taking the ACTs, you don't need to submite any SATIIs! Plus, if you apply Early Decision, nobody has to submit them (at least not until after they accept you).</p>

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I think your SAT II scores are fine... but if you don't want them to be considered, don't send them! If you are taking the ACTs, you don't need to submite any SATIIs!

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<p>Not true!!!</p>

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All applicants to Dartmouth, including those who apply from foreign countries, are required to take the following:</p>

<p>Either the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT I) or the examination of the American College Testing Program (ACT).</p>

<p>Please Note: Students may submit scores from either the old SAT I or the new SAT I (with writing). Similarly, students may submit scores from either the regular ACT (if taken prior to February 2005) or from the ACT with writing (if taken in February 2005 or after).</p>

<p>Any two SAT II Subject Tests.
The TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) is strongly encouraged for foreign students for whom English is not the principal language of instruction and for non-native speakers of English. TOEFL is given at centers throughout the world and must be taken early enough so that the results are reported to Dartmouth by January of the year of intended entrance.
All testing must be completed by January of the senior year in high school. If standardized testing is repeated, the Admissions Committee only considers your highest scores. Information and test registration forms may be obtained from your high school guidance office or by writing to the College Board or the American College Testing Program. Dartmouth's College Board number is 3351, and the ACT code number is 2508.</p>

<p>Standardized</a> Testing</p>

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Plus, if you apply Early Decision, nobody has to submit them (at least not until after they accept you).

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<p>I would not recommend this strategy as you want your D to be evaluated with the most complete package as possible especially if she is applying ED.</p>

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<p>thanks for the comments everyone, from a paranoid dad! I am hopefull she will apply ED.</p>

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<p>Your daughter is certainly a strong candidate. The SAT 2s are not necessarily a problem, but they don't help her case. In trying to distinguish her application you should certainly highlight her research internship. What Dartmouth and the other ivies expect to see in strong candidates is something more than just being the best in your school. State and National recognition go far in catching the adcoms eye. Is she good enough to be a recruited athlete?</p>

<p>My daughter also took the ACT, but then she took the SAT for National Merit. Although Dartmouth did not match National Merit money (only need based aid, as I'm sure you know by now), the National merit program itself gives money to freshman who do exceptionally well. I think my daughter got $1500 - which I viewed as the cost of her computer. Best of luck to your daughter - and I'm sure your son will have a blast when he arrives later this summer. My daughter doesn't like Dartmouth - she LOVES Dartmouth.</p>

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<p>IvyIsGreen- She's looking good to be a '13...Also, I've sent you a PM.</p>

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<p>@Sybbie...</p>

<p>Maybe they changed it this year, but I know that there were a bunch of '12s on the Dartmouth Facebook Group who were freaking out because even though they took their ACTs, they needed to take their SAT IIs in june (after being accepted). This was because they need SATIIs from everybody, but for those who use the ACTs you don't need to give it to them in order to be admitted. I realize my other post was confusing, and this one might be confusing too. Basically, everybody needs to submit SATIIs, BUT, if you are using your ACTs, or are and ED candidate, you aren't required to do it until after you are accepted. For the OP's daughter, this might be a good option if they felt their scores are too low. Even better, she has already taken them, so she doesn't need to worry about cramming for them later on.</p>