Chance my friend for Harvard, Princeton, Stanford?

<p>Well, he and I had a little differing opinions and we wondered what some other people might think. This of course, does not dictate, nor guarantee his outcome. This is purely out of curiosity and we would like some opinions.</p>

<p>Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
Unweighted/Weighted GPA: 4.00/4.65
Class Rank: 7/600</p>

<p>SAT: 2010 (Retaking)
CR - 640
Math - 770
Writing - 600</p>

<p>SAT II:
US History - 750
Math II - 750
Physics - 700</p>

<p>ACT: 30 (Retaking)</p>

<p>AP Scores:
US History (5) Lang (4) Physics B (4) Calc BC (4) Chemistry (4) World History (4)</p>

<p>Senior course load:
AP Lit, AP Physics C, AP Euro, Honors Calc III, Socratic Seminar, Leadership, Orchestra</p>

<p>Extracirriculars:
4 years of tennis. 2 years JV 2 years varsity
2 years of tennis management
4 years of orchestra
Captain of youth praise team at church
NHS 2 years
Key Club 1 year
About 150 hours of community service for church</p>

<p>Oh, he claims his safety school is Columbia. Chance for that school too please?</p>

<p>safety?</p>

<p>columbia?</p>

<p>2010 SAT?</p>

<p>otherwise pedestrian and unremarkable application? </p>

<p>columbia is a high reach. </p>

<p>he needs other safeties.</p>

<p>His ECs aren’t his lock… they’re good enough but not great.
His GPA is obviously decently helpful…
His test scores are killing his chances right now. If your friend doesn’t significantly boost his SAT/ACT scores (by at least a few hundred points SAT or 3-4 ACT)… he has about a 1% chance by my read. Well under the average applicant to those schools. </p>

<p>And Columbia is definitely not his safety… odds are very high he wouldn’t get in. A safety implies almost guaranteed acceptance, i.e. a State school (usually).</p>

<p>Yeah, he’s a REAL cocky !@#$%
He thinks he should be #1 in school and says I cheated to be #1 just cause I took more AP’s then him</p>

<p>But yes thank you. Maybe this will finally get him to get real. He just won’t listen to me when I say that Ivy League is really hard and even high test scores doesn’t necessarily guarantee. And he keeps claiming his extracirriculars are top notch</p>

<p>That’s pretty cocky to claim Columbia is a safety.</p>

<p>His ECs are definitely top notch… just to calibrate, my GPA is a 4.0/4.91 and I got a 36 ACT. My ECs are probably better. And my odds of getting in a still under 50% at those schools… </p>

<p>And how is taking more APs “cheating” to have a better GPA? That’s hard work, the opposite of cheating.</p>

<p>and he is your…</p>

<p>friend?</p>

<p>Yeah… REAL cocky !@#$% make bad friends…
^agree^</p>

<p>Good friend I’ve known for awhile, but really jealous and overly competitive/cocky. (Which gets really annoying)
He REALLY thinks he’s going to get into those schools easily. Again, thanks to all for your input.</p>

<p>tell him to look at the stats and he will find that he is way below the ranges</p>

<p>Honestly the outlook isn’t too good. I have approximately the same stats as him. I’m probably going to look into a school like UCSD or UCD.</p>

<p>Ivies are never considered “safeties.” The salutatorian in my school hired a counselor who told her UPenn would be her safety and she got flatout rejeceted by all the Ivies. She’s going to GW University next year. Which is okay…</p>

<p>Anyways, he’s doing fine except everything he does is really typical of asians. Tennis, orchestra, etc. To stand out in the Ivies, he needs to break at least the 2100 mark if not 2200 for SATs and he needs LEADERSHIP position. I cannot stress how important it is for applicants to show leadership/initiative in their applications; HYP want to produce the best and the brightest to lead everyone else.
Keep up the community service and try to find ways to stand out through awards and such. For example, just because he’s been taking orchestra for 4 years doesn’t mean he’s good at it, so he’ll need proof through awards or recognition in competitions to back things up.</p>

<p>Your friends a ****** lol. He won’t get into any one of those schools.</p>

<p>Lol Black’s Law.</p>

<p>Basically, tell your friend he’s too cocky for his own good and that he needs to show more stellar and unique talents as well as leadership. Also, he needs to stand out from all those asians who play tennis and are in orchestra, like me lol. </p>

<p>Can you also list his courses, such as how many AP’s and which AP courses?</p>