Chance my friend! HYP

<p>Rejected from Stanford and needs a confidence boost
Applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton (don't worry she has safeties)</p>

<p>Female, Irani/Pakistani</p>

<p>Public HS in California
4.32
1 out of ~500</p>

<p>SAT (superscore): 2170
M 680
CR 790
W 700</p>

<p>SAT 2's:
Lit 720
US History 700
Bio E 670</p>

<p>Classes: toughest courseload at school
5's on Calc AB, US, English
4's on Econ's, Bio, Euro, Spanish
Comp Gov, US Gov, Calc BC, Psych, Enviro Sci, and English Lit to be taken in May</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:
-founded first national youth division of the Interfaith Youth Alliance (has spoken nationally, has public recognition -- she wrote about this in her essays)
-varsity tennis (#1 since soph year)
-National Forensics League - state semifinalist in oratory, national qualifier in oratory, league awards in debate and speech
-mock trial (9, 11, 12) - attorney awards
-MUN (officer, involvement since 8th grade) - many "best delegate" awards
-philosophy club (since 9th, officer since 11th)
-Islamic Cultural Center - volunteer work</p>

<p>Awards:
-national merit commended
-award for a creative writing piece from local writers conference/workshop
-national AP scholar
-mixed forensics/MUN awards</p>

<p>Letters of Rec:
counselor-very strong
teacher 1-he said it was really strong
teacher 2-good, maybe average/typical stuff</p>

<p>Essays:
one about interfaith issues/how she views religion in society, the other about her mixed identity (cultural heritage, religion, etc)</p>

<p>Okay, so she definitely has a chance at all three of those school. But i don't see that one thing separates her from other students.</p>

<p>Yeah.</p>

<p>Your heritage and ethnicity will definitely play well in a hardcore liberal school like Stanford.</p>

<p>I'd say a 75/100 shot at Stanford and half that for HYP.</p>

<p>Check out some UC schools.</p>

<p>Her sat and sat 2s seem sort of low. It won't kill her chances, but it certainly does not help.</p>

<p>She doesn't seem unique to me. Of course her recs + essays could set her apart. But her ECs seem to be average at those elite places.</p>

<p>She is already rejected from Stanford.</p>

<p>I hope she has some matches/low reaches, because she could very well (I'd say likely) end up at a safety.</p>

<p>Gaffe:</p>

<p>She should reapply.</p>

<p>:p</p>

<p>I don't know how my friend J with a 3.4 GPA and half the e.c OP has got in. He apparently had a really powerful personal statement....</p>

<p>Anyways.</p>

<p>Reapply? I'm pretty sure that if you get rejected, you can't apply again. Anyway, people who get flat-out rejected from Stanford EA are almost certain not to get into HYP.</p>

<p>Yeah, you can't reapply. It was a joke.</p>

<p>CDS, I'm almost certain that's not true. Read all the posts on Ivy forums talking about how a decision from one school doesn't indicate anything about a decision from another school</p>

<p>It generally does, though.</p>

<p>Welcome to your safety school. SATs are too low. The ethnicity won't help, most of Cali is Asian or Middle Eastern. Try schools below the top 5.</p>

<p>@HSisOverrated: Does he not have a hook/ tip whatsoever?</p>

<p>Zachsta, a rejection EA or ED from a top school is almost a certain indicator that the applicant will get rejected from comparable and better schools (HYP are absolutely better than Stanford). If your friend had been deferred, it would be an entirely different story. A rejection, however, coupled with mediocre (for those schools) scores and ORM is unpromising. It could happen, but it almost certainly won't. Being valedictorian could help some, especially at schools that are not quite the top (Duke LOVES valedictorians). Last year Princeton took a quarter of the valedictorian applicants...Harvard and Yale took even fewer than that...think about it.</p>

<p>that post oozes with pretentiousness... i.e. "HYP are absolutely better than Stanford"...who are you to make a judgment like that?</p>

<p>yea, stats seem like the average applicant.... and, agreeing with bandit_tx, a heavy group of applicants from California are asian and middle eastern.......</p>

<p>ECs are good but too trite..... like they say "why should harvard, yale, etc choose you over many of the the other qualified applicants? what will make you stand out of the crowd???"</p>

<p>i agree with zachsta... when i read cds32090's post i started to cringe. -__-</p>

<p>hyp are seriously unpredictable (especially with these stats, unfortunately :(...) i like the interfaith alliance thingy though</p>

<p>heh thanks forizzle</p>

<p>Haven’t been on this site in a long time, but as for an update – she got into Harvard and just aced her first year</p>

<p>your friend’s stats aren’t bad, but she shouldn’t be getting a confidence boost from them</p>