<p>I live in middle tennessee and am interested in going pre-med with a degree majoring in Chemistry or Biochemistry. I have 32 on ACT, 3.99 GPA, pretty much all my courses I have taken the past 2 years of high school have been Dual Credit, IB, or AP courses. I will be a senior this fall. I have a pretty impressive resumer of community activity and athletic involvement. What are the chances?</p>
<p>I know there are the Maximus, Presidential, Medalist, Buckeye, etc. Scholarships, but what are the chances of being granted in state tuition for me and beign able to cover the costs with merit scholarships?</p>
<p>OSU Student here, you’ll probably get Maximus but the Presidential and Medalist (free tuition) requires you “win” the essay competition held for Maximus scholars at OSU.</p>
<p>Exactly how difficult is it to “win” the Presidential and Medalist scholarships? Since there essay based, do you find out the topics when the HOSA applications come out? And also, what are the chances of beign granted in-state tuition for a student such as me?</p>
<p>Are you asking what are your chances for a “free ride” at OSU with an ACT 32?</p>
<p>A free ride is “free tuition, room, board, and books.”</p>
<p>At OSU…27% have ACT scores over 30 </p>
<p>So…It’s doubtful that an ACT 32 is high enough for that big of a scholarship since the school would also have a number of students with ACT 33+ or SAT equivalent.</p>
<p>If you want a free ride or even free tuition, then your scores generally have to be in the top 1-3% of a school. And, even in those cases, the scholarships can be competitive.</p>
<p>What was your PSAT? Are you a likely NMSF?</p>
<p>Are you going to apply to any schools that will give you assured scholarships for your stats?</p>
<p>In essence yes, I am asking the chances of a “free ride” at OSU. I’ve heard from several sources they are more generous to out of staters because they want to increase influence. I am most likely not a NMSF becauuse I did had an awful test when I took it. PSAT was like 185, which is alot lower than expected. And yes, I will definitely apply to more schools than just OSU. Like I said, right now on 2 sole scholarships I already have approx 10K locked up at ETSU, which is nearly full tuition, and that is just 2 scholarships.</p>
<p>Note: According to their site, the middle 50% range of ACT scores for incoming freshman is 25-30. Therefore, less than 27% of freshman have above 30, and even LESS would have 32 or higher. I plan to retake ACT with writing in September.</p>
<p>According to their site, the middle 50% range of ACT scores for incoming freshman is 25-30. Therefore, less than 27% of freshman have above 30, and even LESS would have 32 or higher.</p>
<p>The stat I quoted was from Petersons.</p>
<p>If you want to use Collegeboard or the school’s stats that the mid-range is 255-30, then that means that the top 25% have an ACT of 31 or higher. </p>
<p>So, it the top 25% have an ACT 31 or higher…then what would you estimate the percent is that have an ACT 32 or higher (or SAT equivalent)? I would estimate that at least 15% do…and if so, there’s no way that the school is giving free rides to even 5%, much less 15% of its students. </p>
<p>*** I am asking the chances of a “free ride” at OSU. *** </p>
<p>Yes, you can try to get a free ride at OSU with an ACT 32, but the chances are very slim. Very slim. </p>
<p>* I’ve heard from several sources they are more generous to out of staters because they want to increase influence.*</p>
<p>It might be reasonable to expect that you’ll get a waiver, so that you’ll only pay the instate tuition rate…so your tuition, room, board, and books costs would be about $21k per year.</p>
<p>If you want a large scholarship, then apply to some schools that you know will give them to you.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input! I’m just breaking down school by school right now, and OSU was just first on the list, so thats why I’m very curious about them right now. I did some research and It looks like the possibilities of getting a full ride are alot more in the realm of possibilities IF I am granted a tuition waiver and only have to pay in state. Rather than relying on a full ride schoilarship such as the PResidential.</p>
<p>* I did some research and It looks like the possibilities of getting a full ride are alot more in the realm of possibilities IF I am granted a tuition waiver and only have to pay in state. Rather than relying on a full ride schoilarship such as the PResidential. *</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>Can you clarify? What links are you looking at that gives you the idea that you’d possibly get a free ride to OSU if you get a instate tuition waiver??? </p>
<p>Again, you can hope for a free ride, but I really think your chances are slim with an ACT 32.</p>
<p>I think you need to include some schools where you WILL get free tuition.</p>
<p>Are you looking at these competitive scholarships?</p>
<p>Honors Medalist Scholarship (50 awards are available) • December 1 deadline! </p>
<p>This award covers the **full cost of in-state tuition **at Ohio State for four years (12 quarters or the equivalent), **valued at $9,729 **for 2010–11. For nonresidents, this award may be combined with the National Buckeye Scholarship.</p>
<p>National Buckeye Scholarship for non-Ohio residents<br>
Award amount
$8,700 ($34,800 four–year value) </p>
<p>So, if you do get one of the 50 awarded scholarships and you do get the Buckeye, then you’d get about $18k per year. That won’t cover all of the tuition. You don’t get this money AND an OOS tuition waiver. The scholarships are essentially to cover the OOS tuition differential. </p>
<p>I think that is why you’re confused. You don’t get an OOS tuition waiver…and then get this scholarship money to apply to instate rates. That’s not how it works. The intent of the scholarships are to reduce the OOS tuition cost. </p>
<p>The tuition is $23,600 and the COA is $35k for tuition, room, board, and books.</p>
<p>So, instead of paying $34k for tuition, room, board, and books, you’d pay about $16k per year (plus another few thousand for travel and personal expenses)…if you got BOTH scholarships. Not a bad deal.</p>
<p>May I ask why you are limiting yourself to OSU. D. got very little in Merit awards at OSU. She got full tuition Merit scholarship (mnay of them, totaled) without any test at Miami (Oxfod, OH). Also, they increased it to much more based on her high college GPA later on. She has graduted from Miami this year after having awesome experiences there. She is at Med. School now.</p>
<p>I agree…the chances for an ACT 32 to get even free tuition from OSU is slim. The school only gives a small number away…and certainly the school has a lot of kids with ACT 33+</p>
<p>Just to give you a comparison…my kids’ school gives free tuition to all who have an ACT 32 or SAT equivalent. Each year about 500 frosh enroll with that scholarship (that doesn’t even include those who declined the school - so probably at least 1000 are awarded). </p>
<p>So, if my kids’ school has 500 frosh attending with ACT 32+, then certainly OSU has that and more.</p>
<p>* She got full tuition Merit scholarship (mnay of them, totaled) **without any test **at Miami (Oxfod, OH). *</p>
<p>her test scores weren’t used at all? what was the basis of her scholarships?</p>
<p>^“She got full tuition Merit scholarship (mnay of them, totaled) without any test at Miami (Oxfod, OH).
her test scores weren’t used at all? what was the basis of her scholarships?” </p>
<p>-I am sorry if I was confusing. Yes, scores were used. She did not have to take competition test like at OSU or Cinci to get a scholarship.
Her ACT was 33 and she was ranked #1 with GPA=4.0uw. It was enough to be part of 200 who were accepted to Honors at Miami. Merit awards were automatic. She had about 10 of them and got much more after first year at Miami, where she continued having all A’s (graduated Summa Cum Laude with 3.98). </p>
<p>But my point was that she did not get that much at OSU after she competed for thier Merit award. I believe that she did much better (and she liked it much more) at Miami.</p>
<p>Yes, I’m not trying to be narrow minded as it may seem. Like I said before, OSU was just the first one I came to on my list of schools to look into. Also like I said, I have an in state school I am looking at that I am almost 100% sure I’ll get a full ride AND pocket Tennessee’s lottery scholarship, which for me if 5K a year. Overall the in state school (ETSU) is the best fit due to location, price, and quality of education. I just have broad horizons on out of state schools, such as Duke, OSU, possible U of Virginia, and maybe even Wake Forest. My goal is to owe littler as possble, IF ANY for my undergraduate in anticipation of medical school, which luckly ETSU has as well. OSU just is just a school I would love to go to based off my visit and the opportunities both academically and socially it has to offer. Thanks for all the help guys! I really appreciate it, this is a LONG process. I just hope to stay relaxed and unstressed to make the right choice, its still very early as well.</p>
<p>^Yes, D. was accepted to OSU Med. School also. But since we did not pay UG tuition, she was not looking to go to cheapest Med. School. So at the end she was choosing between 2 private Med. Schools. Still going in OH, but not at OSU. Best wishes, I believe that you are on a right track, free UG is a good goal if thinking about Med. School.</p>
<p>Well, it looks like you have to decide between a free ride at ETSU and another school where you won’t get a free ride.</p>
<p>Look at it his way…ETSU is ranked rather low for a national univ…so it’s not surprising that it would give a free ride for an ACT 32. To expect a much, much higher ranked school to give you a free ride is not a reasonable expectation. Even UTenn doesn’t give OOS students free tuition for an ACT 32. </p>
<p>Are you a likely NMSF??? If so, that might give you more options.</p>
<p>For a school like Duke, you’d need to determine what the school would expect your parents to pay.</p>
<p>I highly doubt I’ll be National Merit, I did not do very well on the PSAT, had a bad day, scored like 190. </p>
<p>On another note, finally got back AP scores recently, and as a junior I took both AP Biology and AP Chemistry, scored 5 in Chemistry and 4 in Biology.</p>
<p>I really would like to major in chemistry, but I would do Biochemistry if it was more reccommended though. But I will not major in biology, its just not my subject of choice.</p>
<p>As to school choice, my family doesn’t qualify for any need-based aid, we are about ad middle class as it gets. So I would prefer not to pay more than around 25K MAX for undergrad. It is just very hard to refuse a full ride and gettin paid. But, if paying 25K means a better school that will likely get me into a better medical school, nevertheless just get me INTO medical school, then its worth it. Any recommendations on out of state schools for a student of my profile?</p>
<p>* So I would prefer not to pay more than around 25K MAX for undergrad. It is just very hard to refuse a full ride and gettin paid. But, if paying 25K means a better school that will likely get me into a better medical school, nevertheless just get me INTO medical school, then its worth it. Any recommendations on out of state schools for a student of my profile? *</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>$25k max is about $7k per year. Is that what your family will pay? Or is that loan money?</p>
<p>For you to only pay $7k per year, you’d have to get at least free tuition PLUS from a school. </p>
<p>$7k wouldn’t cover room, board, fees, books etc at most schools…at least not for frosh year when many schools have mandatory meal plans and dorms for frosh. </p>
<p>Alabama would give you free tuition, but you’d have to pay more than $7k for room, board, books, fees for frosh year.</p>
<p>^The best is to pay as little as possible for UG, save $$ to pay for Med. School.</p>
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<p>OP, you won’t pocket the 5K from TN lottery scholarship. Sorry to say, that’s not how it works. That money will be deducted from you COA, but you will not be getting a refund.</p>
<p>*The best is to pay as little as possible for UG, save $$ to pay for Med. School. *</p>
<p>I agree with that to a point. </p>
<p>I know that my son could have gotten a complete full ride scholarship from a lower tier school, but I think at some point it helps to be at a school that has better science courses and good pre-med advising. So, he accepted a full tuition plus scholarship instead of a full ride.</p>
<p>ETSU is ranked somewhere around 200 or below. </p>
<p>I don’t think there’s much difference between schools ranked between 20 and 100 for pre-med prep…but once you get to schools that would be 4th tier under the old system, I’d be concerned that an adequate science education could occur.</p>