<p>For smart students it only makes sense to go to ASU if you get into the honors college and your major of choice is highly ranked (business, journalism, and engineering). </p>
<p>You do realize that ASU is mandated by the state to basically have "low standards", so they're making the best of it. Yes, stupid people go to asu, but there are other smart people at ASU as you'll find pretty much anywhere with 60,000 students. Do the smart people have access to some great resources, opportunities, and money? Yes. Rather than being one of many at a higher ranked university, you're "special" at ASU -- that's the advantage.</p>
<p>Plus ASU has made a commitment to accepting any student interested in doing college level work--And if they can't hack it, they lose their scholarships and don't come back. </p>
<p>Are you really mad that ASU has low admission standards? I think it's great. Some people need a second chance, and ASU does not lower the rigor of its courses to meet the masses. College should be an opportunity to better your lot in life, regardless of whether you weren't mature enough/didn't care enough/had other life problems in high school to recognize the need to prepare for an Ivy league. </p>
<p>America should be about egalitarianism--And that's what ASU represents.</p>
<p>Im not mad at ASU for their low admissions but its only hurting themselves by allowing anyone to go their. One who slacks off for 4 years of highschool should face the consequences and head to community college for a little while, yet ASU lows their standards to that of a community college, making it possible for anyone who applys to basically be accepted. Its ridiculous. Second chances? High schoolers have time for second chances throughout their 4 years of high school They had plenty of times to redeem themselves. The only reason ASU allows everyone in is to get their tuition. Its a joke. I dont know how you can praise ASU for their admissions standards when they are non-existent. If they toughened them up a tiny bit, they would get better students who realize that being accepted to ASU actually means something, rather than a guarantee.</p>
<p>Who cares if being accepted actually means something? Being an "ASU student" is meaningless. What you get out of it, a degree, internships, life experience, or research opportunities, is the what's important. </p>
<p>The university itself does not exclude people, but all highly ranked programs within it do. For example, the honors college only takes top students, the business school only takes students that were either top students in high school or have proven themselves to be great students in their first two years of college.</p>
<p>I'm not sure why you're so concerned about the admission standards of the university at large -- it's rather pointless to have stringent standards for 60,000 people. They can have stringent standards for the best programs which enroll a portion of the students, and lower standards for more basic programs, which allow people to obtain college degrees. It works well for everyone once people realize the way it's structured. </p>
<p>I know I won't have any advantage because I came from ASU, but I know I'll have an advantage due to Barrett and my school/major.</p>
<p>By the way, the ASU honors program is far superior to UofA's. Just a thought...</p>
<p>haha, regarding scholarships...
im out of state and ASU offered me full tuition, full housing, and a $10,000 stipend...maybe i should have gone there :-/</p>
<p>damnn what'd you do to get everything free like that?
I got 23,000 a year. Which means I'd still have to end up paying about 6k a year due to all the fees and stuff.
I'm still waiting to hear back on other school though.</p>
<p>haha, i did a lot of extracurriculars and my grades and SAT were pretty good.
ucla also gave me a full ride, so i'm currently a first-year bruin :)
good luck with hearing back! i remember this time last year...i was very anxious...</p>
<p>ah congrats! a full scholarship from ucla, that's amazing.</p>