<p>hi, I am a south Indian male from a very competitive NJ school. My first choice is Brown PLME, which I will apply early decision. I'll also apply to ba/md programs at BU, TCNJ, Rutgers, Drexel, Lehigh, VCU, and maybe U Miami. </p>
<p>also, ill be applying to georgetown, jhu, and nyu for regular undergrad programs</p>
<p>gpa: 3.68 uw
4.36w
top 10% of class</p>
<p>APs: 5 in u.s history and biology. next year I'm taking ap English, ap psych, ap chem, ap u.s government, and ap calc b/c</p>
<p>PSAT: 218 - probably will be commended, but i don't think they announced that yet</p>
<p>SAT: -2230
-760 CR
-750 math
-720 writing</p>
<p>SATII: -730 chem
- 710 bio
- planning to take math 2c this oct ECs/awards - **
-track and cross country (though not varsity or every season)
-future physicians club (no leadership position)
-Science league (only in 11th grade)
- Holmdel First Aid Squad explorers (secretary)
- National Honors society, Spanish Honors society
-Spanish tutor (around 10 hours)
**
medical ECs -
-EMT certified. I ride /w the first aid squad in my town (probably around 50 hrs or so, im not sure)
- Physician shadowing - about 50 hrs
-hospital volunteering - about 120 hours
- I'm working independently on a public health research project, but still looking for a mentor so chances of publication before applying are pretty much zero. I'm planning to major in public health/community health, so this might contribute to my uniqueness.</p>
<p>4.36 W, 2200/34, research 2 summers, shadowed 2 doctors, other typical stuff...</p>
<p>I would hate to criticize you (and thus myself), so I'd say our gpa and SAT's are decent. If you want to major in public health, talk about it in your essays since they are so important. I think essays will make or break us...</p>
<p>Yeah, not to sound like I'm dissing you or anything, but you'd probably have a better chance at the schools that PipingHotTofu pointed out. I'm only saying this because my brother (who I admit isn't the best writer in the world... so his essays may not have been the best) had scores about like yours, and slightly more ECs with more Leadership... yet he still didn't get into PLME. However, he will be going to VCU as a part of their GMed prog, so that's why I agreed with the good shot at there. :)</p>
<p>Hope it helps, and apply anyways... who knows?</p>
<p>PS: I'm a south Indian kid too... I'm applying ED to PLME as well... good luck!</p>
<p>I'm currently in the BU program and I hate to break it to you, but your rank is low for the program; class rank is, on average, top 2% of the class. However, by all means, apply! Everything else looks pretty solid. Best of luck!</p>
<p>btw, does anyone know how to count hours for EMS volunteering. If it's the number of hours on call, then i probably have ~450 hours from this alone. if its only the number of hours actually answering a call, then it would probably be around 50 like i mentioned before</p>
<p>a desi i know who's starting PLME this year got a 32 on his ACT...</p>
<p>so look, they don't care that much if you have good stuff that makes up for lower scores.. they have no reason to accept a person with 2350+ if he's showed no interest in medicine or anything whatsoever...</p>
<p>That's very very rare. Check out their 2007 acceptances thread and you will get an idea.</p>
<p>May be that kid did something extraordinary that got him accepted with ACT Of 32. Is he a concert pianist or something or a Rhoades scholar or something?</p>
<p>Otherwise, for 99% of the applicants, if your SAT is not over 2300, don't bother applying to PLME at Brown. Or apply just for the fun of applying. Don't expect any positive response from Brown.</p>
<p>Um, it's Rhode's Scholar, and only seniors in college can apply for that.</p>
<p>No offense, Pharmagal, but you seem kind of impetuous and irrational with your advice. Brown has published material in recent years that the average SAT is around a 1420 on the old SAT for PLME students.</p>
<p>Yes. They publish lots of data..... but I am speaking from some experience from 2007 acceptances.</p>
<p>No offense intended. You don't have to take my advice at all. It might be wise though to be open minded and know how difficult Brown PLME is, lest you get dissillusioned. </p>
<p>Why not check their stats in the archive? You don't have to take my word for it!</p>
<p>You're drawing your conclusions from the experiences of a few applicants out of over 1,000 that apply. I am fully aware of how difficult it is to get into the PLME. Yes, kids with near perfect stats get rejected, but to suggest that one needs a certain score just because you know somebody who was rejected with a score lower than that isn't really legitimate.</p>
<p>I am not referring to scores needed for ANY student were accepted at Brown PLME. I am referring to scores needed in general for Southeast Asians.</p>
<p>SEAs are considered an over-represented minority (ORM). Therefore, the stats-range in USNews indicates URM to ORM range. Yes. People with lower SATs may get accepted at PLME if they are Under represented minority (AAs, hispanics, and Native Americans).</p>
<p>I have not seen any South east Asian (Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani) get accepted with the same scores though. PLME is far more demanding of SEAs than any other race IMO. Note that the OP is an SEA......therefore, you need far higher scores than those of an URM.</p>
<p>I would rather be frank and honest, and give realistic advice that is applicable and most useful to this student than be goody-goody and get the student crestfallen and disappointed in the process.</p>
<p>Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinions. These threads are free to all for posting. Those who don't believe in any specific person's opinion are welcome to review archives on this topic.</p>
<p>I would be mostly concerned with:
gpa: 3.68 uw
top 10% of class</p>
<p>This year (2007) these stats would not be enough to get an interview for most BS/MD programs. Do not get discouraged, one year could be different from another. However, prepare yourself for ANY outcome. I would apply to others besides PLME. SEAs are OVER represented in applicant pools in ALL of BS/MD programs, including state schools. However, I would not worry too much about it. I am not aware about PLME stats in 2007. However, for comparison purposes, Case Western PPSP (bs/md) had 800 applicants for about 20 spots. Being valedictorian + high scores and a lot of med. and other ECs still was not enough to get an interview. Good luck!</p>
<p>BU, TCNJ, Rutgers, Drexel, Lehigh, VCU, and maybe U Miami. </p>
<p>hmm...drexel, lehigh I would say very high percentage....so so with U Miami, VCU...slight chance with BU and Rutgers...barely anything with TCNJ and PLME</p>
<p>good luck, my admissions was a really tough time for me last year, so many things I wish I did differently, oh yea think about adding Nova/taking out drexel, because Nova's a much better undergrad</p>