<p>do you think I have a great shot RD..?</p>
<p>No, ED rates will be going down. There is a push for greater control on rd yield control as opposed to relying on ed. With that said, a push for EA was considered but dropped earlier last year. It may come in due time however. As for T_college, you need to differentiate yourself. Academically you are fine but you need to highlight your individuality and ECs.</p>
<p>The class of 2009 had the largest ED component of any class. John Latting is adament about not relying on the waitlist as he had to do for the class of 2008. I strongly believe that the number of ED admits will remain stable or even go up.</p>
<p>Just watch. JHU had the highest ED rate most recently out of pure necessity due to inability to predict yield after accounting to the murders. Now that JHU has overenrolled, the ED rate will either be staying the same or going down. Most likely the latter. Admissions is expecting a higher rd yield for the class of 2010 and is not afraid to use the waitlist although not quite as liberally as last year. After speaking to admissions officials this year, the quality of ED applicants accepted went down as they had to "bank" on weaker applicants to come and fill in the class. This had to be counteracted through outright acceptance of more regular decision applicants, instead of the usual waitlisting yield protection JHU normally does. A repeat of accepting a subpar "nucleus" as you call it is to be avoided. It almost seems as if you want ED rates to maintain as they are. Currently numerous higher education officials view it as the backdoor to JHU and it is negatively hurting its image as a selective university. Even with taking athletes into account, JHU has the single highest ED acceptance rate among its peer schools with the exception of cornell which has a higher ED rate due to its land grant schools. Im currently gathering information for a newsletter article comparing hopkins admissions to other schools. Expect it sometime in the near future.</p>
<p>Some of the comments on this thread actually concern me. I am a sophomore currently at JHU and I applied early decision. I also have worked with the Admissions office for the past year and learned a lot about how they review applications. </p>
<p>First, someone should only apply to JHU early decision if its their CLEAR first choice. Actually, this is true of applying anywhere early decision. Binding early programs are about students finding the perfect fit school and should not be about competition and numbers. I chose to do ED at JHU because I loved the campus, the programs, the people I met everything about it.</p>
<p>Second, this concept of choosing a school to apply early to because it is easier to get in to is just wrong. You will be there for four long years and the name is not enough to get you through it. You should visit the schools your interested and if you feel at home then that might be the one to apply early to. If not, just apply regular everywhere and weigh all your options.</p>
<p>Third, it is not necessarily easier to get into Hopkins early decision over regular decision. The applicant pool is much smaller ED than RD and the quality of applicant tends to always be stronger. Each year the number of students admitted ED has more to do with the strength of the pool rather than some set number established before the applications are received. Those speculating about what JHUs ED admit rate will be next year are purely hypothetical the Admission counselors do not pre-determine a rate, they need to see the applicants first.</p>
<p>Last, statements about how good a shot one has of being admitted are crazy coming from people who have no connection to the Hopkins Admissions counselors. Decisions are not made just based on numbers, everything is about the big picture. So for those of you looking for confirmation that you should apply to Hopkins, call your regional Admissions rep. </p>
<p>JHU isnt for everyone come visit us and find out for yourself.</p>
<p>I still contend that many coaches get their applicants in ED, so don't be fooled by the high acceptance rate. think about it, of course im guessing but... 20 or so lax players(mens and womens), 25 or so football players, 6 baseball players, etc etc. I know for a fact that coaches push their athletes to apply ED. When you are talking about a relatively small ED applicant pool to a highly selective university, this makes a difference.</p>
<p>are atheletic stats really included in this number? Take Duke for example and its b-ball players. I always thought they sign national letters of intent guaranteeing them an acceptance like months beforehand. And thus, I didnt expect athletes as part of admissions statistics. At least to Div1 programs..</p>
<p>PalmBeach is correct. I spoke with one of the Admissions counselors today and he checked the early decision and athletic recruit statistics. Nearly 20% of admitted early decision applicants this past year were recruited athletes. (And these stats are pretty consistent every year.) This include D1 lax players and all the D3 teams too. The coaches use the early decision process to be sure they get their top recruits.</p>
<p>Clearly here is another reason -- in addition to the small applicant pool and stronger quality of ED applicants -- why assuming it is "easier" to get in to JHU early is a false assumption .</p>
<p>Clearly you don't understand admissions. The ED sat average has been consistent at around 1340 to 1360 for the past few years. And according to a recent study/newsletter article the difference between average athlete and student SAT scores are 10 points. Considering the overall SAT average for Hopkins has been around 1400. ED acceptees are weaker and the difference can not be layed upon athletes. Who are you talking to? Maybe you should try talking to latting himself.</p>
<p>collegiate, I dont want to get into a discussion thread argument with you but the information you are providing is very misleading. I work in the Admissions office and speak with the counselors on a regular basis...and yes, I have spoken with Dr. Latting. What is your source? Articles from the News-Letter that quote Dr. Latting?</p>
<p>Determining competitiveness solely on SAT scores is just wrong. There is so much that goes into the way Admissions decisions are made, and scores are just one of many factors. Plus the scores you quote only differ by 40 points!</p>
<p>Also, my comment about athletes never stated that was the sole reason for a higher ED acceptance rate. Rather I confirmed what PalmBeach was assuming. Athletes, the much smaller ED applicant pool, and the stronger quality of those applicants are all factors why the ED rate is 50%. </p>
<p>Prospective students out there, go back to my original post where I suggest looking at Hopkins ED if it is your clear first choice, not for a competitive advantage. Talk with Admissions and they can explain everything to you...dont rely on what can be very misleading posts on this board from people who have nothing to do with Admissions.</p>
<p>You're right. I have nothing to do with admissions but I have talked to Latting firsthand concerning these issues. As superficial as that may seem, SATs are representative of applicant quality nowadays. And the difference is not 40 points. Think about it. Regular decision enrollees must have higher than 1400 to balance the "lower" SATs of early decision admits. You are right, people should only choose to apply to JHU ED if it is there first choice, unfortunately some are not doing so.</p>
<p>lets see what happens this year..the word is out, and has been, that Hopkins is the easiest top school to get into ED... I expect event more apps</p>
<p>I am thinking about applying for Early Decision JHU this summer. I am very interested in JHU's Inter Relations or Inter Business related programs. However, the school is better known as a medical school and.. when I apply as a liberal arts student, will my chances of getting in increase?</p>
<p>Also, Georgetown is another reach school on my list. It is a school well known for its Inter Relations studies soo... by applying to such school, will my chances decrease?</p>
<p>However, GT only offers Early Action and not ED.. I love both schools and their programs... but I heard EAs are not as good as EDs...and you do not get advantages for apply for EA.</p>
<p>URG. I am SO confused >< help me please :D</p>
<p>laxfan04 (or anyone else who knows the answer :D)</p>
<p>Since you work in the admissions office, do you have any idea how JHU will look at our new SAT1 score? Will the new writing section be considered?</p>
<p>Plus, if I apply for ED, the admissions officers will only see my May test score (I messed up for that test i . i ) Will a bad SAT1 score severely bruise my chance to getting in? (I am taking SAT1 again this october)</p>
<p>I am interested too in the issue of SAT 1 scores and how the ED/RD pools enter into the decision. Also, do you know how the SAT IIs are used? Finally, was there really a drop in quality of the applicants last year as suggested above?</p>
<p>tk and roadtested, I hope I can answer your questions. About the new SAT exams, from all I have heard the Admissions counselors will be looking at all the sections on the new exam including Writing. How they will be weighed has not been determined and I know is a constant topic of discussion in the office this summer. JHU is also still recommending SAT II exams and I know they are looked at in conjunction with other exams and a review of the transcript. </p>
<p>I asked one of the counselors and he explained that if you apply ED you may take October SAT / ACT exams and have them be included in your review. If you take November exams you can rush your scores but there is no guarantee they will be included when your file is reviewed.</p>
<p>Finally, as I have said before you should apply to JHU ED if it is your clear first choice. If it is a toss up between JHU and Gtown then you should not apply ED to JHU. Also if you choose to apply ED to JHU you can not also apply EA to Gtown. </p>
<p>As far as your chances increasing as an IR major to Hopkins that is not true. In fact, the IR program at JHU is highly ranked nationally and competes with Gtown and therefore applicants are reviewed stringently.</p>
<p>That is interesting -- so they judge applicants in part by what they say they may major in??? So, if history or poli sci is my thing, is that more favorable than say econ or int relations? Because to be honest, I could major in any of those.</p>
<p>roadtested, it is not a "favorable" or "unfavorable" thing -- just a way that the readers can evaluate your strengths and weakness compared to your intended area of interest. If you say poli sci, econ, IR, or another social science you will be (and should be) looked at differently than someone who says english, classics, or languages -- or BME, bio, etc.</p>
<p>I know one of the adcoms biggest "pet peeves" are when students list a major that they clearly are not interested in thinking it will be easier to get in that way. Like someone who is clearly interested in medicine putting down Spanish yet they never took a foreign language. They see right through that...and dont like it.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>If you come from an "elite private school" where most kids get into the ivies, then you're pretty much in at JHU.</p>
<p>[50</a> Colleges With High Early Admission Rates - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/applying/articles/2010/12/15/50-colleges-with-high-early-admission-rates]50”>http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/applying/articles/2010/12/15/50-colleges-with-high-early-admission-rates) direct yourselves to number 48 and you will see that the early decision rate is indeed 50%</p>