chances at Princeton, Cornell, Yale... and other suggestions?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>well I guess this post didn't get much attention because its title was stupid...heh sorry... so here it is again:</p>

<p>Hello all,
I'm applying to Dartmouth ED... but jsut wondering what you think my chances at Princeton, Colby, Cornell, Bowdoin, or Middlebury are if I were to get deferred or...dun, dun dun!.. rejected come December. Also, do you guys think my SATiis are too low, and if you have any suggestions on schools that are like the ones I listed (I'm looknig into Pre-Med or a Pre-Med related major), </p>

<p>SATI: 1420 (740V, 680 M)
ACT: 30 (34 Eng, 29 reading, 27 math, 28 science)</p>

<p>Have Only taken 2 APs
World Hist: 3
Us Hist: scored a 4</p>

<p>and taking AP Bio Exam come the end of Senior year.</p>

<p>I also had a stellar interview, on campus, and have another local interview scheduled- a Dartmouth Alum called me up and asked for an interview, so I said yes.</p>

<p>SATII:
Writing 630
Chem 680
US His 660</p>

<p>Challenging Course load, taking two courses offered from Communnity college (College Economics: 94 avg so far; and College Government- next semester) and a Writing course offered at our school by Syracuse University.</p>

<p>Ranked: 37/468 at a public school
Weighted GPA: 94.39 = 3.94? and improving!</p>

<p>Grades show tremendous improvement, went from 89-93 overall averages in 9th and 10th grades to 95- 98.2 overall averages Junior year (with a challenging course load, mind you)- I started putting a lot more effort into my studies (hopefully that won't hurt me).</p>

<p>Perfect Score on Math BII (it's a New York thing) regents exam
Scored a 97/100 on English Language Arts NYS Exam</p>

<p>EC:
Scholastic:
· National Honor Society
· National Junior Honor Society
· Vice- President of Junior Class
· High Honor Role (Junior year)
· Honor Roll (Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years)
· Professional Horizons Program- a mentorship program at Rome Memorial Hospital; formerly The Regional Program for Excellence (Senior year)
· Scholar Athlete (Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years)
· Student Association (Junior and Senior years)
New York State Merit Scholarship (awarded for having second highest average of final exams in my class of 468)</p>

<p>Sports:
· Woods Valley Ski Team (Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years)
· Qualified for, and participated in, varsity Skiing in 8th grade (earned varsity letter)
· Varsity Track (Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years and plan to participate during Senior year)
· Varsity Cross-Country (Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years)
· Co-Captain of Varsity Cross-Country (Junior and Senior year)
· Participated in Sectionals for Cross-Country (Sophomore and Junior years)
· First alternate for Varsity Cross-Country Sectionals (Senior year)
· Varsity Swimming (Sophomore and Senior years)
· Most Improved Swimmer- Varsity Swimming (Sophomore year)
· Participated in Sectionals for Varsity Swimming (Sophomore year)</p>

<p>Community Service:
· 30-Hour Famine Participant (Freshman and Junior years)
· Raised money for the Heart Run and Walk (Junior year)
· Raised money for and participated in the Relay for Life (Junior year)
· Card games with senior citizens at The Bethany House nursing home (Senior year)
· Raised funds for the Ronald McDonald House charity (Senior year)
· Raised money for the Crop Walk (Senior Year)
· Volunteered at school blood drive- Oct. 8, 2004 (Senior year)
· Christmas caroling to invalids, hospitals, and nursing homes with church (Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years)
· Helped with National Honor Society Induction (Senior year)
· Anonymously, and sometimes openly, shovel people’s sidewalks in the winter</p>

<p>Musical:
· Independent singing group: “The Primes” (Junior year)
· RFA Select Choir- one out of only four basses in my school that were selected (Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years)
· RFA Musical (Sophomore and Junior years)
· Perfect score at NYSSMA with the RFA Select Choir (Sophomore and Junior years)
· A score of 97/100 on Level 6 (most difficult) Bass II NYSSMA singing solo (Junior year)
· Selected as an alternate for Mixed Chorus All-State (Senior year)
· Area All-State Choir (Senior year)
· Selected as a Bass in local Area All-State (Senior year)</p>

<p>Religious:
· Steubenville Christian Youth Conference, Steubenville, Ohio (summers of ’03 and ‘04)
· Involved in “Life Teen” Christian youth group (Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years)
· Involved with American Baptist Youth group (Freshman year)
· Member of Team Possible- a Christian youth leadership group (Senior year)
· Confirmation Team- a group that helps with Confirmation classes (Senior year)
· Helped with Confirmation retreat at Saint Matthew’s in Syracuse (Junior and Senior years)</p>

<p>Clubs:
· BSI Club- student communications (Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years)
· Key Club (Senior year)</p>

<p>I know these colleges' admissions decisions are a crap-shoot anyways, but thanks in advance for your help :-).</p>

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<p>You look like a great person and a good student, but as you realise your SAT II's are not going to help at the most selective schools. Of the schools that you mentioned, Princeton and Yale are major reaches, Dartmouth ED is a reach (but you may make it), and Bowdoin and Cornell are reachy matches. Colby is a match. </p>

<p>Since you are interested in pre-med, one of your considerations should be the opportunity to work with professors and obtain stellar grades as an undergrad. This is more likely to occur at a Colby than a Yale, where you will be competing with really high-powered undergrad and grad students for time, attention and resources. Certainly keep the ivies on your list (especially Cornell), but think about adding another match or safety. Skidmore, Vasser, Macalester come to mind. And good luck on your ED application!</p>

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<p>thanks :-)</p>

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<p>isn't 30 on ACT= 1340 SAT I?</p>

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<p>yup, I took those around the same time I took my first SAT and got a 1330 on that...soo...lol, they correspond</p>

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<p>bump it up</p>

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<p>...anyone?</p>

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<p>Don't send your ACT!</p>

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<p>wow, nice ecs and gpa but what happened to your scores (low sats and ap). still think your choices are reaches. upon closer inspection, your ecs arent too impressive... im tired</p>

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<p>Yeah sorry man, I am seeing defferal then rejection. Your hope is to cram like hell for the December SATIIs and raise them to 700ish.</p>

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<p>25% of current students at Harvard have SAT Is at or below 1370. And every other school in the country has even more. You aren't going to get any help from your SATs, so the question is what else are you offering that they'll see that will get you in? (is there an athletic hook here? Have you contacted coaches?)</p>

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<p>No you're wrong, at MIT and Caltech, apparently no student has SAT I at or below 1370.</p>

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<p>At MIT, the average 25th percentile for the four most recent years ranged between 1370 and 1420. So you are correct that 25% weren't below that. But literally hundreds were.</p>

<p>Let's take your point, though, at every national university in the country other than Caltech and, maybe, MIT, and every top 50 liberal arts college in the country, at least 25% of the student body had less than a 1370, and at 90% of these, many more than that.</p>

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<p>That's not true, my friend got into MIT last year with a 1240 (760M, 480V), and stats that weren't all that great. I don't know about Caltech and I would assume it's much harder to get into Caltech than MIT as the latter is more of a holistic process.. My point is this: if you have something to offer the school, they may be able to overlook your performance on tests. Just make sure the other aspects of your app make up for it - after all, it is a competition and those who compete against you may have same stats plus stellar test scores. Best of luck to you regardless, and I think you have a shot at Dartmouth, Cornell, Bowdoin, and Colby. Yale and Princeton are reaches, but not many can call those matches or even match-reaches.</p>

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<p>thanks for your input guys...I'm gonig to cram for the Jan SATIIs if I get rejected or deferred from Dartmouth</p>

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<p>U have no dedication or hooks</p>

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<p>I have dedication in sports and youth group. (I don't really want to go to Princeton or Yale actually, was just curious).</p>

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<p>gHost, are you going to Princeton? I hear some (not all though- for all of you nice Princtonians) kids there are jerks...you strike me as a princtonian.</p>

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<p>u don't WANT TO go to princeton or Yale???? that doesn't sound like words of ccers lol</p>

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<p>lol, Well not so much that i don't want to go, I haven't really checked them out, but friend of mine viseted Princeton and didn't care much for the people he met.. though might've ben a rough day or something?lol... And Yale... well haven't looked it up, but I don't think I want to invest the money in applying there because they are a bit too much of reach schools and I don't even know if I'd be happy there.</p>