<p>I know a lot of smart kids who would have been accepted at more prestigious schools five years ago. It has a good chance to become a recognized institution, because of its proximity to NYC and the recent caliber of its applicants!</p>
<p>Honestly, I'd say you don't get in. Those SAT's are way too low - they barely make their average on the 1600 scale and that high school GPA shows me that you don't work that hard. You don't have that many extracurriculars and where are the AP/Honors classes? You're not even getting a 3.0 in regular high school classes. How do you think you will do in college? A lot worse....</p>
<p>I find this 81% retention rate a lot more realistic than Notre Dame's 96%. If only 4% of the freshmen don't graduate 4 years later, the school is too easy! </p>
<p>That just means that 96% of the freshman return for sophomore year. That doesn't mean they have to graduate....Even if that did mean that 4% didn't graduate, that wouldn't necessarily make the school too easy. Think of the kids they are attracting! They are a top-knotch school that attracts very smart individuals. Obviously they are not going to flunk out like some people going to Sacred Heart who have never challenged themselves.</p>
<p>I think Sacred Heart is a growing reputation...I just was reading Princeton Review and they were recently selected as one of the Best 366 Colleges in America. Thats pretty impressive, where I come from in Long Island, Sacred Heart has a great reputation and a TON of my friends got denied this year. Sorry sara123 but I don't think you have a very good chance. Try applying to schools that are a tier lower with academic standards...your guidance counselor should be able to help you. Take care and gl.</p>
<p>try fairfield rather than Sacred Heart- idk if you could get in but fairfields much nicer, better sports/academics etc</p>
<p>I was just reading about the incoming class (in a high schooler's blog - from Long Island) and apparently, the class of 2012 is by far the best credentialled class SHU has ever had. So, it sounds like LIHeisman is correct.</p>
<p>sara 123 - Did you get in?</p>
<p>I read the initial deposit at SHU is $1500!!?? Does anyone else know if that's true? Wow, that's a lot of money for a non-refundable deposit.</p>
<p>I heard the deposit was pretty high this year.</p>
<p>Let me give you my perspective on SHU since my daughter is a senior and will be continuing there for her doctorate.</p>
<p>It IS like a big high school! But, it is the kind of school that pushes you to get out of there in 4 years. From what I understand, the nursing and athletic trainer majors are the toughest.</p>
<p>The business program will be getting tougher and tougher. With a lot of money poured in by Jack Welch, the Business School is up and coming--it will be a place with a great reputation!</p>
<p>It is a dry campus; but that doesn't mean nobody drinks--they are pretty stringent on giving out citations if you are caught drinking or caught with people drinking on campus.</p>
<p>My daughter has had a great experience. It is a very good school--and not heavy-duty in Catholicism.</p>
<p>I think it will be tougher and tougher to get into because of its building reputation. The University is only around 45 years old. So, it has a lot of growing to do; and that it is!</p>
<p>gonavy, what program is your DD in ?</p>
<p>She is in the Athletic Training program. It is not a program for students who don't want to study. It is a great path to the doctoral Physical Therapy program. Some current PT grad students had an undergraduate degree in psychology; but, it didn't prepare them well for PT grad school.</p>
<p>She considered SHU against Northeastern where she was also accepted. SHU has been a great fit for her. That's why she will be staying there for grad school.</p>
<p>Its a nice school, definitely suffering growing pains with campus size, dorms, and parking. They used to guarantee housing for 4 years. I don't know if they do anymore. But, there are lots of affordable off-campus places available, even in Bridgeport (and, yes, there are some good areas to live in in Bridgeport, despite its reputation.)</p>
<p>gonavy2008,</p>
<p>I take it that your D is in the 3+3 DPT program and just finishing up the first 3 this spring?</p>
<p>PT is one of the things my 10th grade D is considering for college. Being an ice hockey goalie wanting to play college hockey limits school choice, leaving a list consisting of Sacred Heart, Utica in D3 and not many more (Northeastern, BU, Vermont, UNH, Quinnipiac) IIRC in D1 (if her talent proves to be of that level).</p>
<p>I know PT is a demanding program and would rather see my D not under the stresses of both being a D1 athlete and in an intense program, but that will be her choice, ultimately. </p>
<p>I noticed that your D chose Sacred Heart over Northeastern. If you wouldn't mind sharing your D's thinking (what she liked/didn't like) about the 2 schools, I'd appreciate it. We haven't been to Sacred Heart, but have visited at Northeastern (goaliegirl is quite enamored with living in Boston).</p>
<p>Did your D look at any other PT schools? Any on the list above?</p>
<p>And with the 3+3 program at Sacred Heart, does FA work the same through all 6 years, or is the "grad school" part of the program run differently?</p>
<p>And how is their pass rate on the National Exam?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for any input...</p>
<p>As an undergraduate in Athletic Training (the best undergraduate path to PT), she was one of the few D1 athletes because her sport (rowing) met in the morning. She said it would have been impossible to complete the program in three years because of all the clinical hours that would have to be put in. Each semester, I believe beginning with her 3rd semester, she worked with a team when they practiced or had games. One semester, she worked at a local high school. She got a lot of practical experience and had a lot of coursework that will make the 3-year graduate PT program more easy to move into. She passed her AT boards the first go round! A good number, I believed, also passed. But, I haven't heard all the stats yet, as the scores just came in last week.</p>
<p>At Sacred Heart, a student can also do Psychology or Exercise Science as an undergraduate path; but, it doesn't prepare the student for the graduate Physical Therapy program as well. But, I guess it would free up some time to play a D1 sport. That's a question you would have to ask someone in the PT department.</p>
<p>She applied to Hartford, Quinnipiac, Keane, and New York Institute of Technology. Sacred Heart and Northeastern were the only two she seriously considered.</p>
<p>There was a lot of personal attention at SHU.</p>
<p>Sacred Heart is now supposedly the #1 rated college in CT for Physical Therapy. She looks forward to starting in the fall.</p>
<p>She chose Sacred Heart because of smaller classes. Also, on a tour at Northeastern, the guide said that in many classes, they had to "teach themselves" and/or had difficulty understanding the accent of the teacher. My daughter did not find any of that at Sacred Heart, except for maybe one class where the teacher (who I don't think may be teaching there any more) "read" the textbook to them instead of explaining it. No TAs teach classes at Sacred Heart as far as I know.</p>
<p>Good information gonavy!</p>
<p>I would expect that an experiential major like AT or PT would be difficult to coordinate with a varsity athletic committment. Glad to hear that your D could make it fit. </p>
<p>From looking at SH's varsity hockey roster, there would appear to be 1 frosh who is majoring in AT, so I am hopeful that these things can be worked out.</p>
<p>I understand the workload can be tremendous, so if a 3+3 cannot work with an athletic schedule, a 4+3 is OK as long as there is automatic admission, as graduate admissions to PT programs are very competitive and the committment of a varsity athlete often comes at the expense of the GPA, making admissions more iffy. Of course, the financing of things becomes more expensive with a longer program too. Speaking of financing, how does SH deal with FA for graduate type degrees like PT?</p>
<p>Interesting information about the differences between SH and Northeastern. I know with any "occupational" type major, it is often difficult to get good, qualified instructors, as many of the best are out in the field making money. And class size in a hands-on type of course is very important.</p>
<p>I'll have to have a long talk with goaliegirl regarding all the tradeoffs involved. She likes Northeastern (we did a tour last fall as an educational experience). Of course, she loves Boston like so many other young people. And, no disrespect to SH, but as an athlete, she prefers a D1 schedule if given a choice. I'm not sure why SH still plays a D3 schedule as a D1 school in womens ice hockey, but with their current roster, it is probably a more realistic situation. Of course, the D1/D3 question may or may not be an issue. She is currently a HS sophomore playing having finished her 2nd season starting for her prep school (no, we don't have money - she gets incredibly generous FA). We'll know more in about a year.</p>
<p>Right now it is about exploring and learning about opportunities and this summer she will probably intern at a PT practice where she had some rehab done (they liked her a lot as a patient and has been back a couple of times just to visit) a couple of summers ago. I think that will go a long way in helping her to make a committment. Ultimately, this is a profession you choose because you like the work and what you achieve for your clients.</p>
<p>Lots of things still to figure out. Thanks again for the info. And any further thoughts are always appreciated.</p>
<p>Hey gonavy...I read with interest your post of 4/08. Like your daughter, mine, too, will be entering her freshman year as a rower and PT student. I was curious about why you said the Athletic Training program prepares a student better. For some reason, SH steered my d toward excersice science as a major, but I have concerns. They also recommended TWO lab sciences for her first semester (which means TWO again for her second semester!) I worry that it will be too much, especially w/the demands of rowing. She is receiving a generous financial award, and must maintain a solid GPA in order to keep it. I don't feel confident that she can manage all this, and frankly, one of the reasons we chose SHU is b/c of the financial assistance/award we received. Any thoughts? Thanks.</p>