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<p>Did NO ONE bother to read the "MANY INDIVIDUALS OFTEN THINK" before the rest of the sentence? I was acknowledging a stereotype that exists. I was NOT endorsing any such position.</p>
<p>JOey</p>
<p>You sir, your flowerly language is constantly tormenting my mind, my eyes, and in fact, the existence of my being, merely because those dancing characters exist without a purpose, and blatantly defied their purpose - to communicate with others.</p>
<p>Yes, I did suffer from a heinous failure, and I am not afraid to share it. The truth is, colleges DO NOT GIVE A **** about your hardships.</p>
<p>Stanford has over 15000 applicants each year, and they would gladly pick anyone with highest measurable credentials.</p>
<p>Hardships, however, are not measurable. They cannot be compared rationally. If you want, I would like to share with you my rejection letter from Yale, written just for me by a director, stating explictly that hardship cannot override academic credentials.</p>
<p>Plus, you DID NOT beat the hardship. You are explaining how did it impacted your perfermence, and that's an excuse.</p>
<p>Let me put it this way. Student A and Student B.
Now both student A has a SAT of 1500 and a GPA of 4, with everything else being the same, hardship get student A in.
Now Student A has a SAT of 1480 and a GPA of 4, student B has the same score.
I can assure you, Student A's hardship would not do him any good.</p>
<p>in addition, the story about your job has nothing to do with what we're talking about...nobody claims that racism no longer exists and in your specific instance i'm assuming the "ignorant white man" didn't know you...that might explain why he wasn't ready to offer you a job. </p>
<p>i'd also like to say that i think you're the only one who would criticize someone for suffering from depression.</p>
<p>I don't critice people suffering from depression, I am merely stating that depression can be interpreted in such away that is adverse to you, and above is my interpretion.</p>
<p>About the job, I was already offered a job, just waiting for placement. She then told me to apply all over again. What is this? </p>
<p>Note I am not whining, I am merely using that as an example that people screw you over no matter what you say.</p>
<p>he actually said that he'd written about how his hardship had changed him for the better, and stanford will blatantly care</p>
<p>"Command of English language? Do I have to write like our nation's founder fathers? In fact, their language was proven to be vague and the supreme court was dedicated to interpret their godawful languages." -Area69</p>
<p>There wasn't a single person on this forum that specified how you should write. So the answer to your question is no, Mr. 69, you do not have to write like our nation's founding fathers. Now my question to you, is do I have to write in a more repetitive, less complex manner? I do not use the words I do to be needlessly vague, or pretentious, I use a variety of words, because I like to better convey the EXACT tone, and meaning, of what I am trying to say. So, yes, while Berate, has nearly the same meaning as "bash" (although a completely different tone), "blame" has nearly nothing to do with berate. Thus, following the writing guidlines that you so eagerly provided for me, would in fact MARR the original meaning that I was trying to express. </p>
<p>But on the other hand, I must say, that your laughable posts are fairly amusing to read.</p>
<p>This is turning to a ******** flame war, nothing feels better than making-a-person-believe-he-is-superior-on-internet-then-whip-his-ass-in-real-life though. For that reason, I will stop making personal insults and begin to try to help you get into Stanford. </p>
<p>I state again, that hardship does not replace GPA, there is no conversion table. It is not of paramount importance. It does bring the extra bang when you have all perfect scores.</p>
<p>"Yes, I did suffer from a heinous failure, and I am not afraid to share it. The truth is, colleges DO NOT GIVE A **** about your hardships.</p>
<p>Stanford has over 15000 applicants each year, and they would gladly pick anyone with highest measurable credentials.</p>
<p>Hardships, however, are not measurable. They cannot be compared rationally. If you want, I would like to share with you my rejection letter from Yale, written just for me by a director, stating explictly that hardship cannot override academic credentials."</p>
<p>First off, you do not even KNOW what my hardships are, so your conclusion is a bit illogical. You are the epitome of why I am reluctant to share the actual details of my situation, because I really don't need it to be trivialized, and insulted by angry individuals like yourself. </p>
<p>Ahhhh.......on a positive not, the truth about your intentions in posting has now been revealed. You are projecting the anger surrounding your rejection in a cowardly manner. In your posts you seem to value some falsified notion of virtue and esteemed honor in overcome trauma, yet you yourself by posting hasty generalizations, and attempting to hurt others, are displaying no characteristic other then cowardice. The way you are dealing with your rejection exudes a sense of weakness that is analagous to the "rich white boys in mansions" that you so despisingly describe.</p>
<p>"This is turning to a ******** flame war, nothing feels better than making-a-person-believe-he-is-superior-on-internet-then-whip-his-ass-in-real-life though. For that reason, I will stop making personal insults and begin to try to help you get into Stanford. </p>
<p>I state again, that hardship does not replace GPA, there is no conversion table. It is not of paramount importance. It does bring the extra bang when you have all perfect scores"</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. 69, but just to save you from tiring your fingers, I do NOT need your help to get into Stanford, nor do I desire any advice from you. Now I know that this is a public forum, and you are free to continue posting your idiotic, uninvited replies, however just know that I do not WANT to hear from you, even if you are posting formidable advice, because your credibility, and my respect for you, Mr. 69 is virtually nill. </p>
<p>Everyone else who has something constructive to say, please feel free to, for I still am filled with the original doubtfullness about my chances at Stanford that motivated me to post this thread.</p>
<p>nice flame, how said, I don't care. How unfortunate, some person hoping to get into Stanford is now acting like an idiot, arguing on internet.</p>
<p>Hey, maybe you will be like the google founder one day? I mean really.</p>
<p>Hey, you can write well, maybe I should tell my current employer to give you a job as secretary or something.</p>
<p>but sorry, they really don't give a about your hardship, no matter what is it.
And no, I won't flame you anymore. </p>
<p>let me assure you, they have more than 3000 applicants who look better than you on paper. </p>
<p>I was like you a year ago, I wonder if you will become like me after a year. Haha, let all your vivid description of me become yourself.</p>
<p>I was never a coward. In fact I have done more things that you would never dear to do. (have you faced a gang of 12 people, with your bare fist? You haven't? Have you sneaked into a military base then went back out? this is not Grand theft auto, this is who I was.)</p>
<p>Let's all give this guy something constructive, some factual infomation.</p>
<p>I'll start,
1. Stanford does not have an appeal process.</p>
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<p>uninvited replies? what do you think this is, some kind of special-invite-only party for you? if you don't like it, don't post a thread. </p>
<p>as for your "special situation," this is the INTERNET. sure, admissions officers may browse these forums, but you can at least reveal what kind of situation it is to help us evaluate your chances. then again, "what are my chances" threads are always bs so there's no reason you have to.</p>
<p>Thanks Nemo.............................</p>
<p>bluevelvet, we all want to help you, but like i said before, its unreaosnable of you to expect us to. if your extenuating circumstance is as drastic and vital to your application as you say it is, then only the admissions officer will be able to know whether or not youll make the cut. since you can't (and i agree, shouldnt) tell us what this circumstance is, there is no way of us to be able to judge your strength in regards to the applicant pool. so, keep your fingers crossed and hopefully itll work out.</p>
<p>"bluevelvet, we all want to help you, but like i said before, its unreaosnable of you to expect us to. if your extenuating circumstance is as drastic and vital to your application as you say it is"</p>
<p>As I stated earlier, if you really are interested in giving an informed opinion, and feel it is necessary to know the exact circumstances, then feel free to pm me. Otherwise, I am not sure why people cannot give a relatively informed opinion just based on the stats, and the mere FACT that there is a severe circumstance, which shows growth, and is the cause of the foundation I've started (turning it into a positive thing). Every other "what are my chances" thread i've come upon, are nearly as vague, so I would appreciate it if someone can give an opinion, based on what i've provided, or simply send me a private message.</p>
<p>wow it was really tough following this thread..
i forgot all about bluevelvet's stats except for the "extenuating circumstances"
and now i have to go back to page 1 to refresh my memory....</p>
<p>Area69, Im sorry (and surprised) that you were rejected from all your schools. However, please, please do not play the game of Who had a harder life because that is so pointless and pathetic. The fact is that someone is always going to have a more apparently profound hardship than you did, but that doesnt mean what you suffered is any less meaningful or important or intense. Dont dismiss someones experiences as petty, especially when you dont even know them and are simply making gross assumptions.
Bluevelvet, its hard to say what your chances are because your scores are slightly above average for Stanford, and your GPA is tolerable considering that you have an extenuating circumstance. Your ECs are good, esp. with the foundation, but Ive heard plenty of cases where spectacular ECs and moderately good stats were deferred/rejected from schools like Stanford. Essays and strong recs will help your case. Its difficult to say how much your hardship will affect your chances (I would say that even if we did know what they were, it would still be hard to make a judgment because none of us are admissions officers nor know the inner workings of AdComs) Id say about 25%.<br>
However, I want to point out that earlier when you chastised others for speculating cynically about the nature of your circumstance, you should realize that most were merely trying to help and were not trying to put you down.</p>
<p>weird thread. Anyway, bluevelvet, given that you weren't too specific about ECs, i can't say your chances, I can only say that your scores and numbers put you among the average stanford applicants</p>
<p>i'm really sorry bluevelvet but your post is too vague to make an accurate prediction (whatever that means) of your chances..
is your hook your hardship? just curious because, although i have no doubt you are unique, i cant tell it from your post</p>