Chances at UMD-College Park and Georgetown

<p>White Male from Maryland
Permanent Resident (4 years in the US)</p>

<p>SAT I: 770V, 690M (latest retake)</p>

<p>SAT II:
US History - 800
World History - 800
Writing - 790</p>

<p>GPA: 3.7UW, 3.9W (straight Bs in 10th grade...not good)
56 out of 452 (relatively affluent, academically-accomplished suburban school)</p>

<p>AP Classes and Grades:
US History - 5 A/A
US Government and Politics - 5 B/A
Comparative Government and Politics - 5 (no class offered, just a textbook)
Chemistry - 4 A/B
English Language and Composition - 4 A/A
Statistics - 4 A/A
Calculus BC B
English Literature and Composition A
Environmental Science A
Modern European History A
Psychology A
Macroeconomics A
World History A</p>

<p>9/10 Grade classes were mostly pre-IB (9th grade) or Honors (10th grade). I attended a school in Virginia during my freshman year.</p>

<p>Fluency: Russian (native speaker), English</p>

<p>-nominated for the 2004 NCTE high school writing competition (did not win)</p>

<p>Possible majors: political economy, European history, political science</p>

<p>EC: this is a fun part, because it's empty</p>

<p>Oh, and, just got rejected from Columbia. Have at it, gentlemen.</p>

<p>While this may seem like a bump, it really isn't.</p>

<p>Hmm. Quite a Paradox.</p>

<p><em>a message vaguely resembling a shameless bump</em></p>

<p>Well, for an instate applicant your SAT scores are definitely on par(actually above), but your GPA is sort of low. The complete lack of ECs may hurt, too. Overall I think that because it is a state school, the simple figures(SATs) and course load may get you in. Did you apply early action?</p>

<p>I've applied with much lower scores but a higher GPA and some fairly significant ECs. I've got a 28ACT(~1260), a 4.7 W, 3.94 U/W, tough course load and a total of about 18 local college credits by graduation, sports, as well as state, county, and school student council leadership positions. Also applying as a female in engineering. I think I'll get in, but not much more than that. </p>

<p>Good luck, hopefully someone can further help you.</p>

<p>Indeed, I managed to get it in before the priority deadline.</p>

<p>Then I'd say you've got a great chance! Where else did you apply besides Gtown, Columbia, and UMd?</p>

<p>Duke Uni.
George Washington Uni.
Princeton Uni.
UVA
JHU
George Mason Uni. (safety)
American Uni. (safety)</p>

<p>In all honesty, the only reason I'm applying to Princeton with my ECs is because I couldn't think of a 10th school to round off my list and happened to have a PTown app. around.</p>

<p>You have NO CHANCE at UMD.</p>

<p>No chance of not being Accepted that is. Come on, in-state at UMD is easy (I'm from MD, btw). Especially with your stats...</p>

<p>Good chance at Georgetown, but as was said before, the GPA is a little low.</p>

<p>a friend of mine in maryland had a gpa less than 3 and got into UM-college park. With no hard classes, GG.</p>

<p>i'd say georgetown is possible, but UMD is definite. they'll probably throw in a few thousand a year, too... maybe room, board, and a laptop if you're lucky =)</p>

<p>Thanks for at least calming my fears concerning UMD ;)</p>

<p>What about the rest of the list, by the way?</p>

<p>Your GPA wouldn't bother me, since you'd only been in the country 1-2 years. My reaction would be that you did really, really well for a recent arrival. It's unusual to see a recent immigrant with higher verbal than math SAT's, too.</p>

<p>It's the lack of EC's that are a problem. Why do you have none? And what might your rec's be saying?</p>

<p>hey guys
i am also applying to umd but my stats r significantly lower than those that have been posted. do i have a shot?
asian-indian
act. 27
sat 1240
gpa 3.75w/3.49uw
tennis all four years
Deca(business club) 2 yrs
Star Raiders (drug prev. club)2yrs
Work experience
2-3 honors/ap courses evry year
i'm from illinois and got evrythin in by dec 1st
what do u think?
thanks!
monica</p>

<p>Actually, I have been in the United States for four years - transfered out of the ESL program during the last semester of middle school. My entire high school career was spent in rigorous English courses, so I don't have a "language proficiency" excuse for my strangely low weighted GPA. I really got screwed over in 10th grade, having to adapt to a new school and a new scheduling system - this school had a regular, seven periods a day schedule back then and only adapted a block scheduling system in 2003-2004 (I have been addicted to block scheduling since 9th grade). I had only 2 semester As in 10th grade and a D in a semester-long non-Honors academic course in 11th grade. Strangely, I perform much better in AP courses.</p>

<p>As to my recommendations, I know for sure that the ones from my teachers were pretty good. My former AP Gov. teacher told me that she would stress my extensive background knowledge and work skills, as opposed to institutional ECs (which I despise). My 11th grade English teacher was also pretty generous with praise for my work habits and literary skills. I have no clue what my counselor wrote, but it's probably not overly bad either.</p>

<p>To Monabala86: I think you should be fine - you've got the ECs that I lack. I am not sure whether your ethnicity will help you or hurt you, though, as I am not familiar with the racial composition of the UMD-CP student body.</p>

<p>If your teacher told you to stress your work skills, do you mean that you had a job? If so, that's an EC. But I guess the overall question is, if you did not enjoy institutional EC's (and I have to admit I sympathize), what did you do with your non-study time? Did you read, write fiction, etc.? Any of that can be an EC, it just depends on how you honestly describe it.</p>

<p>Not, I meant purely school-related work skills and habits. I did hold a landscaping job in the summer of '03, though. I put it down wherever I could, although I doubt that it would really matter. Most of my free time (which is in short supply this year) is spent reading historical/political literature or in DC (weekeneds/vacations).</p>

<p>Haha OP you will def get into CP. There are people in my school (MD), who get in with 10's and 11's. You may also be eligible for the Honors or Gemstone programs.</p>

<p>thanks alexander! anyone else have an idea?
~monica</p>