Chances at Yale,

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi gyus,
please evaluate the chances of a friend of mine. he's from Bulgaria - applying EA !!!</p>

<p>White in highly competitive HS in Bulgaria:</p>

<p>SAT I
640- CR 760- M 660- W
2060 total - Retaking in November</p>

<p>SAT II
taking them on 8.10 shooting for
C1- 700+
Math IIC- 600+
US History- 650+</p>

<p>GPA
6.00/6.00</p>

<p>Rank
HS doesn't give rank</p>

<p>Reccomendations - excellent </p>

<p>Essays - excellent</p>

<p>EC activites/Volunteer/Awards:</p>

<p>. School Newspaper - editor in chief
· Historian Club
· participated in States and Regionals competitions placing top 10</p>

<p>Yearbook- </p>

<p>Astronomy Team (2 years)</p>

<p>Math Team (3 years)</p>

<p>Debate Team (4 years)
· 2 Gold Awards
· went to Sofia to participate in wide competition and placed 3rd</p>

<p>English Club (4 years)</p>

<p>Creative writing club (4 years)
. 4 essay awards</p>

<p>Hoping to major either in international relations or in law.</p>

<p>Tell me if i'll get accepted into some of these:
Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame, Williams</p>

<p>If there are any suggestiosn, please reply.</p>

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<p>do u have a chance, yes...SAT mite be a tad bit low for harvard, yale but for notre dame and williams w/ a good essay u have a more than legitmate chance</p>

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<p>I forgot to mention that he's applying for Financial Aid !!!</p>

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<p>Internationals at Harvard and Yale are accepted at slightly under a 3% rate, and at Williams, slightly under 7%. But your friend's stats are well under the average for any of these three. Those applying for financial aid are accepted at a rate lower than that. So the odds are probably a little bit better than 100 to 1 for Harvard and Yale, and maybe 30 to 1 for Williams.</p>

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<p>This year's Yale admit/reject threads with stats.....
RD
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...ead.php?t=46699%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...ead.php?t=46699&lt;/a>
EA - toward the end
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...read.php?t=4402%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com...read.php?t=4402&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>For the year before, search for massacre</p>

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<p>just so you know there are more people with perfect sat scores on one of the sections than admitted. this said scores on sat II below 700 make your international education look inadequate. go to SOROS foundation in Sofia and you will find a list of schools that give finantial aid to international students. find a scool in your range. you will get in somewhere, but dont risk by applying just to the top schools.
a friend of mine had 700V, 690M, 800 IIC, 690 Phys, 790 Writing, 700+ World hist and other ****, plus bulgarian awards and he unfortunately got the boot because he applied to top 15 only. bad strategy.</p>

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<p>"those applying for fin aid are accepted at a rate lower than that"</p>

<p>are you familiar with the term need-blind admission? need-blind schools will make sure you can afford the education once accepted. the fact that he is applying for fin aid does not chage anything. the fact that his/her results are off from the standard average 2200/750/750/750 though does. :(
sorry to be blunt...</p>

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<p>also another thing:
do some research! he cannot go straight from HS to law school. he needs a bachelor degree and an LSAT.</p>

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<p>It isn't need blind for international applicanats. Could be wrong.</p>

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<p>I am VERY familiar with so-called "need-blind" admissions (which don't exist ANYWHERE - they are individually blind to single applicants, but know precisely the composition of the class they are admitting, and admit a class with virtually the same financial composition year after year, which is statistically impossible in a truly "need-blind" situation.) </p>

<p>But you can check out the aggregate data for yourself. The schools themselves admit as much simply by the predilection to admit legacies and developmental candidates at a higher rate. You can work on down from there.</p>

<p>At any rate, to the OP - your friend has virtually no chance of admission at any of these places. He can apply of course if he chooses (he has even less chance if he doesn't), but he should definitely be making other plans.</p>

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<p>thanks folks,
that was very helpful i told him about ur responses and he got pretty depressed but anyways thanks. Btw what stats must a student have to be a pretty competitive candidature for international realtions at upenn ?</p>