Chances, Cornell Myth-busting, the New York Connection, and FAQs

i thought it was nyu at one point.

MITā€™s rate is 5 times that of Cornellā€™s.

wow, how do you know this information?

it was published in a national study. Iā€™ve just remembered the numbers by Cornell, MIT, and the national average. To be fair, I donā€™t think MITā€™s is really 5 times, the study goes by ratios, Cornell is 4.5 per 100,000 students while MITā€™s is 20 per 100,000. Does this actually mean 5 times? Certainly not 5 times the total number of students. I donā€™t want to make assumptions in my current wine riddled mind.

Well, MITā€™s sudent body is like 5 times smaller, so yeah, the data is somewhat skewed. Still, I think this year no one has committed suicide yet, so thatā€™s a good thing.

Iā€™ve heard rumours that Cornellā€™s biology classes (plus all the phy/chem/math classes which bio majors are required to take) are devilishly difficult and that itā€™s really hard to get good grades. Is that true?

No, Iā€™ve avged over a 4.0 the last 4 semesters as a bio major.

Hi norcalguy, thanks for replying =) Maybe youā€™re just a genius because I heard that Cornellā€™s bio classes (particularly the ā€˜weeder classesā€™ - which ones are these anyway??? - are darned hard) :stuck_out_tongue: Over a 4.0? Whatā€™s it out of? I thought the highest GPA was 4.0 but obviously Iā€™m wrong.

A+'s are 4.3 so you can theoretically get a 4.3 every semester by getting straight A+'s (although not every professor gives A+'s). Straight Aā€™s will get you a 4.0. Toughest bio courses are probably Bio101-104 (intro bio) and genetics (BioGD 281). I havenā€™t found any other bio course to be particularly difficult.

lol Iā€™m not gonna lie, there should be a disclaimer after every comment

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Ahhhā€¦thanks for enlightening me, Figgy .<em>grins</em>. Right. So which profs should I avoid like the plague because they refuse to give out A pluses?

I never really know if a professor doesnā€™t give out an A+ or if I simply didnā€™t achieve an A+. Different professors have different policies: some give out an A+ if you get 100%, some for a 98%, some give out A+'s to the top student, some give out A+'s to the top 5 students, etc.

There has been only 1 time where I felt I deserved an A+ but didnā€™t get one. It was in BioBM332 (biochem). The mean in the class before the curve was a D+ (68%). I had a 94% before the curve so I already had an A. The mean ended up being curved to a B+ but somehow my grade still stayed the same after the curve lol

^wow, yeah you should have definitely asked that teacher for an A+

That wouldā€™ve been too much of a premed thing to do.

lol im sensing an implication but i canā€™t quite figure it outā€¦

MIT had the highest suicide rate in the country in a recent study by the Boston Globe. Over a period of a few years, there were several high profile suicides including one student who committed suicide by setting her entire dormitory on fire, and itā€™s a pretty small school. Its suicide ā€œrateā€ was off the charts. I think I recall that the two other schools with unusually high suicide rates were Duke and Harvard. At Harvard, a student murdered her roommate and then hung herself in her dorm room.

Cornell was mentioned since it did have three or four suicides over a period of some years, but the gorge-jumpings people refer to have actually mostly been non-students jumping. It is just a convenient place to choose if you want to kill yourself. But if you consider that a suicide at Cornell, it would kind of be like counting random people jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge towards the suicide rate for Columbia.

However, Iā€™d definitely question the sample size and accuracy of that study. Itā€™s hard to say a school has a very high suicide rate based on 5 or 10 students who killed themselves, even if many other universities had no suicides, and it is even harder to make a connection between the characteristics of that school and the studentsā€™ choice to die.

Another school with high-profile suicides recently is NYU - several students have jumped eight stories off the library in Washington Square over the past few years, killing themselves. Those were especially gorey because the students jumped into an area at the base of the library that had large crowds. However, NYU has 36,000 students so a suicide once per year is about what you would expect, unfortunately.

just to let you guys know cornell university is the 3rd largest landowner in NY state, right behind NY state and the catholic church

what about the land that new york city owns? iā€™m sure the city owns more land than cornell.

ā€œlol im sensing an implication but i canā€™t quite figure it outā€¦ā€

Lol premed students have a lot to loseā€¦they have to get high grades in college to go to a GOOD med-school, regardless of that they are in competition against so many other students (GAZILLION TRILLIAM MILLION). So not getting an A is like death. Cant wait till I experience itā€¦lmao

I agree with Determind because it seems to me that it is nearly impossible to pull off an A avg and still have time for ECs, like research and physician shadowing. Do a lot of students get into med school after the strenuous courseload? I hope so because my dreams are on the line here.