<p>Hey, Frosty!
Don't sweat the athletics--if anything, that's the best thing to be deficient in--to quote my Admissions Representative, CPT Cloud, "If you're not an athlete before you come to West Point, you WILL be before Basic's over." The point is: West Point looks more for leadership potential and academic achievement than muscle mass (because they'll handle that themselves.)
But looking at your stats, it appears to me that you may have a leadership deficiency as well. I'm a strong supporter of the "Rule of three"...if you have three STRONG positions of leadership, you're set. Mine were XC CPT, Newspaper Ed-in-Chief, and Club VP. Then there were a few little things, like NHS and Tri-M. You get the idea. Remember, it's never too late to found the Easter Egg Hunt Club and name yourself president. You said you're good with Community Service--any way you can think of to turn that into a leadership opportunity?
Academically, my hat's off to you. Best of luck, and please keep everyone posted!</p>
<p>I have applied the NASS but didn't make it because I of limited space. So for I have applied for a congressional nomination in Virginia.<br>
Do you think I could possibly make the cut?
Here are my stats:</p>
<p>3.5 GPA (weighted)
Member of the Civil Air Patrol
NHS
Spanish Honor society
Honor Roll
Vice President and President of a Club
Lettered in swimming and track
Student Governmet chairman</p>
<p>My dad is in enlisted in the navy and I am Filipino-American.</p>
<p>Does it help any to be a minority?</p>
<p>With a Weighted Gpa of 3.5, i would say that it is going to be tough. What are you sats?</p>
<p>about a 600 in math and 570 in Verbal.</p>
<p>You'd probably have to be a recruited athlete with that score. You'll definitely need to get that up (then again, I'm not Admissions Officer).</p>
<p>Where do you live in VA? This is a big factor in Admissions. I'm in the 6th district in Roanoke and I feel pretty secure about getting a nomination as only about 10 people applied for them last year. I've got decent stats for 6th district with 1370 SATs, 3.8 GPA, and lots of ECs and leadership.</p>
<p>Is there some website that shows how many nominations were given per district?</p>
<p>The answer is almost always - 10 nominations per district, unless the district is trying to fill 2 spots, then 20 nominations per district. This is true whether you're in VA or ND.</p>
<p>The question you want to ask - how many appointments per district. While each MOC gets, on average, one person per year charged as an appointment, others that he/she has nominated may also get appointments - off the waitlist, because they had LOA's, etc.</p>
<p>As an example - my state has 13 districts, but has 35 appointments to WP this year.</p>
<p>Chances for Class of 2010 ?</p>
<p>White male non recruited athlete
GPA: 3.85 nw, 4.38 w
Taking all honors classes offered (Calc AB/BC, etc....)
Old SAT: 760(v), 790(M)
Athletics: Soccer 4 years, 1 varsity letter
Activities: NHS, Boys State (this summer), Forensics, various other clubs, summer job (construction last 2 summers), doing SLS & NASS this summer.
Thanks.</p>
<p>Strong. Good odds for an LOA, I'd say. You'd need to support the rest of that resume with some leadership examples and passing the PAE/DODMERB.</p>
<p>Thanks again Kate.
Question about LOA's...How does one qualify? What steps need to be taken to be considered for one without completing application.</p>
<p>You need some leadership positions to strengthen your application. The Admissions Board sets a Whole Candidate Score for LOAs early in the admissions process. The applications are scored and those with scores that are qualified will receive LOAs. The LOA are typically given to those that have met the score level without a nomination and in most cases without a complete application on file. They are conditional upon successful completion of the application and receiving a nomination. However, unless there are extreme circumstances, those with LOAs are almost guaranteed to obtain a nomination. Typically, those with LOAs are not "charged" to the nominating authority that provide the nomination. They can be charged to unfilled appointment vacancies from around the country. You cannot ask for or apply for a LOA.</p>
<p>Please Evaluate Chances</p>
<p>sat: 1380 700-m 680-v
gpa: 3.85 uw 4.35 w
rank: 4/110
athletics: 2 yrs varsity winter track w/2 letters 2 yrs varsity tennis w/2 letters 1 yr cross country with a letter
ec's: Vice President NHS, Mu Alpha Theta Math Team, Mayor's Youth Council member, French Honorary Society member, Latin/Italian Club, Most likely Captain cross country and winter track next year</p>
<p>I was selected for SLS session 1, Naval Academy Session 3.</p>
<p>I am not worried about receiving a nomination, i don't live in a competitive state. My congressman and senators don't pick a primary candidate either so looks like i am in the national pool.</p>
<p>Geb,
Somewhere on line there's a flowchart(Col Jones) of the Admissions process that has the information about the WCS, LOAs, etc.. The LOA is awarded and when the candidate reaches the score needed for admission and has completed his file, that is when he receives the green folder. The score needed for admission is a moving target and that is why some LOA holders receive the green folder later then other admits. There are many candidates on the NWL that are very strong academically but are not captains of the football team (you are right about contact sports). Their WCS is very high given the 60% weighting but have a nomination but no LOA or principal nomination. Many of these candidates are pulled off the NWL and end up validating a few plebe courses. </p>
<p>To clarify the WCS admission number changes not the Candidate's score.</p>
<p>Your test score looks pretty good, although you might try out the ACT--sometimes you score higher on one test than the other, you know? Your athletic participation looks in order. Really push for that XC captaincy! That would help a lot for admissions, believe me. Also, congrats on being accepted into SLS, but don't forget to practice the events, especially the long jump and the B-ball throw, because those are more technique than anything else. I'm sure that, being a track and XC runner, you will find the running portion extremely easy. Good luck.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info hastellion. My gc said that I may be able to get an loa. How likely do you think this is? Also how likely do you think getting actually admitted to the academy is? I mean, am i worrying over nothing or are my chances pretty good?</p>
<p>westpoint2010, never EVER think you have a sure shot. I'm not saying that you've said anything like that, but nothing is ever guaranteed. Your chances look good, but there's simply no way to tell. </p>
<p>I received an LOA pretty early (can't remember the exact date). </p>
<p>I had a 1420 SAT(620 math, 800 verbal), 4 Varsity letters in soccer, team captain, lots of soccer awards, team captain, national honor society president, latin club pres, mu alpha theta, soccer coach for 2 teams, member of church youth group, the whole gig. I also received 3 army rotc scholarships as well as the marine rotc scholarship. I am a STRONG believer that your ECs will make up for most deficiencies in test scores. With my SAT score I probably shouldn't have gotten into Georgetown, but my ECs made up for it. Plus, I wrote really good essays. I think that the essays are something most people simply forget about, even though they're a tool that can be greatly utilized. The essays allow you to show your commitment and passion, as well as allowing the Admissions Board to see who you really are.</p>
<p>Don't forget getting past DODMERB as well. :)</p>
<p>westpoint2010</p>
<p>as marines4me stated..... especially with the academeies... it's really hard to say if someone's a 'sure thing' or not becasue there are alot of factors such as you're location... DODMERB.... PAE etc that even if you're the best qualified candidate, might fall vicitim to</p>
<p>I thought I was a sure thing for west point, I went to IAW ( I guess SLS now) the commadont gave me an award for leadership... I kept getting encouraging letters from West Point and encouraging words from my liason officer... but once march rolled around I was told I would be given the AOG scholarship (which is still good I guess) not an appointment.... </p>
<p>so keep you're hopes up and spirits high but don't get too relaxed</p>
<p>btw... My stats were pretty much identical to yours... except your GPA is a little better but I def had a more exracurriculars/volunteer stuff</p>