Chances for Early Decision

Hi, i’m applying early decision to case. What are my chances with a:
92 gpa
32 act
Majoring in engineering, female from ny?

What are your ECs?
Leadership?
Have you “shown interest”?
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/case-western-reserve-university/2014835-how-to-show-interest-in-cwru-2017-2018-edition.html

Have you looked at Naviance on your school on how people did at CWRU?

@chickennuggetny Don’t even stress about whether your scores are good for Case. It’s not hard to get in here at all. You’re solid!! Consider other schools like Purdue, Ohio State, Michigan, or Illinois since they have better engineering programs. Maybe even consider some SUNY schools to save money.

@chickennuggetny: Please disregard the above poster, who from his/her numerous, negative posts, appears to be a very disgruntled individual. Is your GPA weighted or unweighted? Without more information, I think that you are borderline for admission, and not “solid” as the above poster writes; Section C7 of the Common Data Set for CWRU indicates that class rank (if applicable) and rigor of your high school classes will be “very important” factors in the admission decision, along with your GPA and standardized test scores.

I’m in no way shape or form a disgruntled individual. My posts are intended to be negative; they are a reflection of my views of Case that are based of MY OWN experience. From talking to admitted Case students, I know many who had 3.7+ unweighted GPA and 30+ ACT who got in and some of them took few honors/AP classes even though their schools offered TONS. If you want data on admitted students, I have provided a link on the bottom. A 32 ACT in one sitting is already within the middle 50 for ACT for Case. GPA wise, I think a 3.71 is probably like a 92?
Overall, there is no need to stress out about going to Case, it’s not too hard to get into. Also, since Case has implemented a $70 application fee, fewer people are going to apply since a lot of people “apply” to Case because of its free application.
https://case.edu/admission/academics/facts-figures

Admissions are also going to depend in part on the high school, and what kind of “product” it sends out. Saying that CWRU is “not too hard to get into” is also misleading; according to the most recent Common Data Set, CWRU had a 35% admissions rate, which means that about 2 out of 3 applicants didn’t get in – so admission is a bit harder than you suggest.

I know four current students at CWRU, and all of them are quite satisfied with their academic and social experiences at CWRU.

I agree with @gandalf78 above. My daughter is in her second year at CWRU. Her entire dorm suite (8) love the place. She did not know anyone else going there when she left for Cleveland last year but she now has a bunch of friends and has had all sorts of opportunities: service, research in a lab, special music events, clubs, on and on. Everyone she knows at CWRU returned for their second year- no one thought about transferring and many of her old HS friends at large state universities have. My daughter had a lot of options for college- she toured all over and CWRU eventually became her first choice- after visiting several places (including CWRU) more than once. She liked CWRU better than Duke, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Virginia, and Princeton, among others; the faculty and staff at CWRU have been incredibly supportive.

I am sorry things did not work out for superazn above, but I hope s/he gets help if s/he needs it. Suddenly posting on over 15 threads right after joining cc is not normal.

Once again, I’m only trying to share my own personal experience and opinion of Case Western. I guess for lots of people, Case Western is a fine school, for some it is not. I personally know around 15 people who have transferred from Case after their freshman year because Case was not at the level they expected or wanted much more opportunities in general in both sciences and humanities. I’m among those who are not the happy campers at Case, and there are much more than you’d expect. I know many people who are enjoying their time at state universities, and many of them feel that the traditional hype of state universities being “too big” or having professors who treat students as numbers rather than names is completely false. I guess everyone will find their niche at a certain school and have that school advance certain goals, but Case isn’t for me. Also, a lot of those schools your daughter considered going are extremely selective schools, and the best students at my high schools who’ve won national level awards could not get into.

Maybe not Virginia if she’s in state.

SuperAzn69 - I’m sorry you had such a negative experience, but we know many students who have turned down all sorts of top schools because they wanted to go to Case. Case offers terrific merit scholarships and if you want to be in the Cleveland area it certainly is a great choice. It has great placement in CS, medicine, nursing, etc. Fabulous opportunities with combining degrees with art and music. I would say the samething about OSU - we know students who have turned down all sorts of schools to attend there and loved it and had great experiences. Not every school is for everyone. Its good to share your experiences at Case, but I think that many students have a different experience than you did. Its not a terrible school - it just might have been terrible for you. That’s why its great that CC gives students a chance to learn more about all these schools, so they have better hopes at finding a good fit for them.

@SuperAzn69 I transferred to an Ivy League caliber school after my freshmen year at case. CWRU is a great school and I had an amazing experience there. CWRU may not be as prestigious as an Ivy, but the education you are getting there is definitely top notch. I took many Econ and humanity classes at case and currently take upper level liberal arts classes at a top 20 college. For me, there are almost no differences between the classes I took at case and classes I am currently taking. Moreover, many of the students I met at case are just as smart as the students I met at my current college. There is almost no difference between student quality between case and ivies. Moreover, many case students transfer to elite colleges, such as Uchicago, Duke, UPenn, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, JHU, and WashU.

@SuperAzn69 case is a really good stepping stone and it can take you anywhere you want to go

@Ivydreamst How could Case’s level of academics compare to those of Ivy Leagues? If the student level is the same at your current college compared to Case, why did you decide to leave Case? Look at the CWRU decisions thread and compare it to like Vanderbilt, UChicago, Duke, or all those schools you’ve mentioned. Those students clearly have achieved much more than me and other students.

@SuperAzn69 Do you really think there is that big of difference between a 35 and a 30??? I will tell you, NO!!! Yes, there are students at case who can’t do precalc and can only do basic algebra, but they are exceptions. Majority of people I know at case can do derivatives efficiently and can read 15 pages for weekly readings. They are just a little bit mediocre in high school. That’s it. Majority of students at my current college are just better at comprehension and digesting the learning materials. They are nothing exceptional. Case students are smart, they just don’t work as hard.

Most importantly, elite colleges have a lot more students who are athletes, developments, big donors, legacies, and people who have specific talents. Those students do nothing to make a college environment more “intellectual”. I found out majority of case students are from middle class and they go to case to LEARN!! Also, ACT or SAT doesn’t measure the student quality. If you prep ACT hard enough and paid a lot of money, I am pretty sure anyone can get a 34 or 35, unless you are stupid.

In general, elite college are just richer and wealthier. I really didn’t see the differences between student quality at case and ivies.

@Ivydreamst Yes, look at the scoring curves for the ACT. To get a 35, there is little to no room for error. You can only get on average one incorrect answer for each section. For a 30, you need to get at least a 68/75 on English, 50/60 on Math, 35/40 on Reading and Scientific Reasoning, so there’s much more room for error on a 30. Unfortunately, subtle differences in amounts of questions answered correctly have an relatively large impact on admission.

@Ivydreamst I’d like to add that anyone at a state school can do that too! This shows there’s nothing special about CWRU.

@Ivydreamst If most kids go to Case to “learn,” why did you transfer from Case? Didn’t you want to learn economics and humanities?

@SuperAzn69 because case does not offer the opportunities I wanted. I want to become a investment banker and case has a terrible business program. Over the years, very few students from case make it to investment banking, sorry, but that’s the truth. Overall, I like my experience at case, but I need to get a good job.

@Ivydreamst I see that you’re transferring because you wanted more opportunities in the business world. I’ve taken economics courses here, and I’ve felt I haven’t gained much knowledge from them. I’d say Case doesn’t really have a good business program too. What’s your take about the business program in general? Why would you say it’s bad?

@SuperAzn69 the classes are good and the professors are good too. However, sadly, the business world is obsessed with prestige. Most “good” business schools will have decent number of students who worked in consulting or investment banking. However, at case, there are very few individuals who can break into those industries and the alumni base is not very successful also so you can’t really make any connection. Just go to wall street oasis and see what they have to say about CWRU. Case is pretty much the definition of “non-target” school.