<p>If i apply by Jan 15</p>
<p>Student from a top public school in NJ</p>
<p>Have taken hardest honors/ap courses offered (8 aps by the end of senior year)</p>
<p>Umich GPA = 3.5</p>
<p>My Recs are good, Ecs are also above average</p>
<p>My essays should also work well</p>
<p>Chances for
1. Engineering
2. Arts and Sciences</p>
<p>Asian Indian / Omani Arab</p>
<p>760 M 680 V 690 W</p>
<p>Math Ic 790
Math IIc 780
Biology E 770
US History 750</p>
<p>good chances, but apply asap!</p>
<p>Looking for my chances. Anybody know when I might find out and what that decision might be?</p>
<p>Out-Of-State
Engineering school
File completed November 8
SAT- 800 math, 590 verbal
Michigan GPA- 3.1 just SOph and Jun years 3.25 with Senior year courses
But still in top 20% of class(my school does not rank beyond tenths)
AP Calculus AB, AP Physics B, AP Physics C, AP Chemistry
Plus 19 Honors courses(all but junior english)
Pre-Engineering course
Very good recommendations(teacher said he'd be honored if I married his daughter)
Both parents are graduates
Second best public school in state
So far accepted to Purdue, Wisconsin, and Penn State engineering
Gr. 11,12- Manager of High school student volunteer program
Student council, athletics, some other clubs</p>
<p>Anybody have any idea?</p>
<p>Just for kicks, how about mine?</p>
<p>In state
Engineering
Umich GPA 3.85
Act 28, 32 math 29 science
43 out of 585, 7%
Calc BC, AP physics
Applied Sept 28
Completed Oct 12
Good recs, ECs</p>
<p>Thanks to everybody who respnds to "chances" threads. It probably gets old.</p>
<p>Wow, completely forgot 1 thing I think might help me- summer job as camp counselor in Michigan, and the camp director(UM graduate) wrote an extra recommendation, but i guess its up to the admissions counselor if that even gets read</p>
<p>FWIW, the Admissions counselors aren't the (only) ones reading your app. They have special people who do nothing but read apps. They don't travel, they don't recruit, they don't answer student questions, they don't meet with counselors. They just read apps. They are called....wait for it....readers.</p>
<p>But whether or not they read extraneous material, I don't know.</p>
<p>Well I meant whoever reads it, they just called it an admissions counselor when I called and asked if it would help</p>
<p>Michigan engineering is not selective, the acceptance rate is over 70%. If u are among the top 10% in your school, u will get in.</p>
<p>Final1, you have a 50/50 chance. </p>
<p>NA1987, Michigan is a reach for you given your GPA. The mean GPA for Engineering admits is close to 4.0. </p>
<p>Chummer, your chances are good, but your ACT is slightly low. Still, you applied early, your GPA is good and you are in-state, so in your case, I'd say you have a good shot.</p>
<p>Yeah I thought I might have lower chances of getting in, but I'm hoping the school looks at the school profile my High School sends with my transcript. At my HS, I have a 3.1/4, but that still gets me in the top 20%. It's been years since our validictorian has had a 4.0. I just can't get past the fact that people in other schools can get a 3.5 and still not be in the top 50%, but in my school, there are people with 3.0 and in the top 20%. It's mathematically impossible, even in all AP and honors classes to get higher than a 4.0(and one in like 10 years ever gets a 4.0). I just keep getting worried that hard grading can affect my chances.</p>
<p>Maybe, maybe, probably.</p>
<p>I'm not sure the "top 10%" thing really fits. It is my understanding that the curriculum matters a good bit in engineering--if you are in the top 10% but haven't had sufficient math, I think you couldn't count on being an automatic admit.</p>
<p>u are not sure, but I AM SURE.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that I'm in the top ten percent of my class. I said top 20, but my english and history grades really have brought down my average. I have never seen where the University has even stated the Verbal scores of Engineering students, so I'm hoping my bad english/history grades don't drag me down</p>
<p>Alexandre, you have to learn how to delete just my post, and not the entire thread. I'm sure no one dares to question any of your "i would say" about michigan claims anymore.</p>
<p>NYao, I have not deleted any thread or post. I never do. This was a system-wide technical problem.</p>
<p>then, i apologize. sorry i accused you of this horrible crime.</p>
<p>MichiganAnn Arbor has acceptance rate of 62% which is higher than schools like Jackson State Univ, NorthEASTERN univ, univ of Tennessee, univ of Delaware, univ of Arkansas, Kansas State Univ, San Diego State Univ, Alabama A&M Univ, Florida International Univ, Stevens Institute of Technology, univ of Pittsburgh, Univ of South Florida, Tennessee State Univ, Univ of Central Florida, Illinois Institute of Technology among many other schools. Although at Michigan, the percentage of first year students at top 10% of HS class is 90% FAR MUCH HIGHER than all of the aforementioned schools, even higher than Dartmouth/Duke/Stanford/Columbia/Cornell So, how could the acceptance rate be so high? There are 4 main factors that affect the acceptance rate: the number of applications, the size of the school and most importantly, the pool of applicants and admission criteria. It is no coincidence that Michigan receives much smaller number of applications than many other schools for the simple fact that its tuition is extremely high for a public school that doesnt pamper its students! In fact, even its in-state tuition is by far the highest of all public schools and its out-of-state tuition is close to private schools like Stanford and Princeton! So it is no wonder why many applicants think twice about applying to a Public School that charges the same amount of money as a private one while scoring low at the pampering factors private schools usually excel at.</p>
<p>Stanford engineering Graduate school has an acceptance rate of 35%, which is higher than schools like Univ of Kentucky, Buffalo, Louisiana State, Univ of Pittsburgh, Univ of Cincinnati, Missouri State, Central Florida, Iowa, Iowa State, Michigan State, and many others. Of course, Stanford has one of the top 3 graduate engineering programs anywhere in the world and as such it attracts far more superior engineering applications than these schools, however, if we are to look naively at the acceptance rate as an indicator of the schools selectivity then we are to conclude that Michigan State in East Lansing (11% acceptance) is far more competitive in terms of admission than Stanford!!!</p>
<p>Randomwalk, although your assessment is quite correct, people who think Michigan "pampers" its students less than Cornell, Johns Hopkins, Chicago or any other top research university, are sadly mistaken. Only LACs and a minority of major research institutions pamper their students. The vast majority of major research universities, inlcuding Harvard, MIT and Stanford, do not pamper their students any more than Michigan does.</p>
<p>At any rate, the good news for Michigan is that its applicant pool is growing, as is its yield rate. I would not be surprised if in a couple of years, Michigan's applicant pool breaches the 30,000 (from the current 24,000) levels and its yield rate hovers around the 50% (from the current 45%) range. If that's the case and Michigan resists the urge to grow along with the applicant pool and yield rate, Michigan's acceptance rate should be well under 50%.</p>