Chances for Regular Decision

<p>Anyway, my stats are:</p>

<p>SAT: 2080 (CR: 640 M: 730 WS: 710 -- i expect this composite to go up at LEAST 100 points on the October test)
ACT: 35 (writing scores haven't been released yet for June)
SAT-II: pending, but I'm expecting 710-750 Lit and 740-780 IIc
GPA: 3.85, and have taken the most demanding courses available to me (5 AP's on my schedule for next year, 1 Syracuse University course and 1 SUNY C.W. Post College Course)
i am white, although i am a second-generation israeli, and am a citizen of both the US and Israel (speak fluent hebrew)</p>

<p>a lot of more or less worthless clubs (i.e.: forced to take marching band as a club while in band, quite playing lacrosse after 3 years), however, high up position in my school's model UN club, won an outstanding delegate award at the University of Chicago's annual MUN session.</p>

<p>i play multiple instruments and recieved a perfect score on the highest level (6) at NYSSMA (actually, that was in 8th grade too haha), which is New York's musical achievement testing.</p>

<p>i have been selected for prestige in painting (although this was early in high school).</p>

<p>i have worked for all of high school at two different jobs, at least 10 hours a week.</p>

<p>i have interned for the presiding majority leader of the local legislator for the past year and intend to continue as well as help her with her campaign next year. (>50 hrs total)</p>

<p>i will have 2 or 3 quite good reccomendations from 2 or 3 teachers that know me quite well, as well as an additional reccomendation from the presiding officer of my county legislator.</p>

<p>i am a member of the national honor society as well as the national spanish honor society.</p>

<p>raise your CR. you are in the midrange, though... a 1370 - 1500 i think is the pton midrange.</p>

<p>good luck.</p>

<p>What if I just send my ACT, which is converted to about a 1580?</p>

<p>well, im not sure.</p>

<p>i am going to go to an info session on yale on july 12th in fort lauderdale. i know princeton prefers the sat.</p>

<p>ACT is not a very respected test in the ivy league</p>

<p>Danishkid,</p>

<p>I am not sure I agree with that statement. My D was admitted EA last December and only submitted her ACT scores. All of the Adcoms told us they really don't care.</p>

<p>Most colleges, including Yale, have no preference. If you didn't send your SAT scores already, there isn't really any need to send them now. If you did send them already, then you should probably retake the SAT to try to bring into balance your SAT and ACT scores.</p>

<p>It doesn't matter which test you send. Either way, they take the higher of the two, and then they convert that score into another score out of 9. You are in great shape with a 35.</p>

<p>ACT's are just as good as SAT's</p>

<p>newt...what do u mean a score out of nine...plz elaborate...like academic index???</p>

<p>yeah i second abert's question. what exactly is this "out of 9" standard?</p>

<p>and furthermore, if, hypothetically, it came down to me and another candidate, who also had a 35 on the ACT, and who also submitted his SAT, but had a higher SAT score. Would it not, then, in a situation such as that, be beneficial to not have sent the SAT score if it is lower?</p>

<p>They really wouldn't care that much; between you and that other person, it will most likely come down to ECs, essays, recs, and other intangibles.</p>

<p>For those of you wondering about the 1-9 index thing, read this thread: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=74290%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=74290&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'm not positive, but I think Yale just uses the normal academic index found on this site: <a href="http://collegeconfidential.com/academic_index3.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://collegeconfidential.com/academic_index3.htm&lt;/a>. For a 35, just enter 1580 as your SAT (or whatever the actual equivalent is). Even if Yale doesn't use this exact formula, it will be something very close.</p>

<p>RC0813, I wouldn't be concerned about that hypothetical situation. It's not going to come down to that. You'd have to have another person with the EXACT same interviews, essays and all that subjective jazz. Instead of spending my time retaking the SAT, I would concentrate on getting 750 plus on all of your SAT IIs, which would help you a lot more. Remember, if you are trying to raise your academic index, there are three things: SAT (or converted ACT), GPA, and SAT IIs. A 35 will already get you a max score pretty much for the SAT category. You can try to boost your GPA, but it probably won't get that much better with one or two more semesters. You can really boost your SAT II scores just by studying.</p>

<p>Oh, one more thing about the academic index: to calculate the GPA/Rank/Percentile part of it, they only use one figure. If you know your weighted rank, plug that in the formula, because that is what they will use. If you're school doesn't rank, use GPA.</p>

<p>2010'ers have it bad, I don't know if I could have handled the writing section at the same time as the rest of the SAT ---- talk about hardcore.</p>

<p>newt, thanks a lot, i truly appreciate the response, especially the SAT-II part, as I was originally planning on re-taking the SAT-I in October but now see the logic in taking solid SAT-II's in October instead.</p>

<p>i just wanted to say, i found it interesting that when i posted this on the harvard board, nearly every response was of the "you have no chance," "you have a big fat F for chances" variety. strange how much kinder and more optimistic you guys on this board are :)</p>

<p>lol nice observation !</p>

<p>on another note, how beneficial would it be for me to apply SCEA? could it really up my chances that much?</p>

<p>I hate to echo those mean Harvard posters, but while you should definitely apply if Yale is your dream school, your "chances" seem low. Your ECs seem below average. I have no expertise, of course, but I don't see anything in your profile that would make me think you have a solid chance. I'm not trying to be mean, so good luck!</p>

<p>Low ECs, over-represented state, no URM status, low GPA (for the Yale pool), no hook. Basicly, your ACT is your only competitive asset at this time.</p>