chances for UCSB

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>ok, so i'm a junior right now. </p>

<p>weighted UC gpa: 3.6
projected SAT score: 1900 (this is based off the psat & diagnostics/ practice tests, but i'm taking an SAT class right now which should help bring that up)</p>

<p>3 years junior statesmen of america</p>

<p>2 years debate team (i won awards at several national tournaments)</p>

<p>100 hours community service</p>

<p>work experience</p>

<p>2 years lacrosse (i helped start the team at school)</p>

<p>2 years dance productions, both at school and in an out of school ensemble</p>

<p>3 years junior classical league</p>

<p>i have taken art classes for as long as i can remember, both in school and out of school. i have had some artwork displayed in various galleries/ shows, and they've won some awards</p>

<p>taking 2 AP classes this year, i have a B in one and an A in the other</p>

<p>ive only had one C in high school, and that was last year for one semester of chem (for the first semester, i raised it to a B in second semester)</p>

<p>i'll be taking 3 or 4 AP classes next year</p>

<p>i'll get good recs and i write good essays, so that shouldn't be a problem</p>

<p>so several questions:
1. i go to a reputable private school where many people get into ivys & similar ranking schools, so will that help me/ not help me by either making my academic record stronger or screwing over my class rank?
2. what chance do i have of getting into UCSB? (i'm also looking at LMU, Chapman, UCDavis, & Pepperdine, but i really like UCSB)
3. what should i do to better my transcript?</p>

<p>thanks in advance =]</p>

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<p>assuming you get a 1900, 70% for ucsb?</p>

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<p>3.6 UC GPA and 1900 SAT likely gives you a shot att gaining admission to UCSB. A 70% shot seems a bit to high to me with your stats. Average stats for admission into UCSB last year were 3.91 and around an 1850 SAT. I would call UCSB likely a match-slight reach. Here are the average freshmen admission stats for UCSB last year. Hopefully this will give you a better idea of what your odds are there Best of luck!</p>

<p><a href="http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsb.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsb.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>LMU: Safe Match
Chapman: Safety
Pepperdine: Safe Match
UC Davis: Match-Slight Reach
UCSB: Match-Slight Reach</p>

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<p>Okay for UCSB, the actual gpa of students who attend is 3.76. So you have a little less than that. But your SAT is higher. It is a definate match for you, but SAT's have as much weight as SAT 2's now, so you have to do well on those as well.</p>

<p>Davis is a match as well. You fall in their ranges. The gpa on the low side, and the SAT on the high side.</p>

<p>As for the others LMU and Chapman are basically guarantees. </p>

<p>As for Pepperdine it is a Slight Reach to Reach. They only accept about 28% of applicants. And the avg. gpa is about 3.7 UW. Also they want students who are really involved in church (specifically church of christ)....So without a good rec from your minister or priest, and an amazing essay, I doubt you will get in.</p>

<p>Good luck with UCSB.</p>

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<p>thanks guys you were a lot of help :)
i'm visiting all the colleges in feb. to get a better idea of what they're like.</p>

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<p>what on earth. anyone who knows anything about college admissions knows a 3.6 and 1900 is not a reach into pepperdine. Christ, those are the odds for UCLA or UCSD, not Pepperdine. by using that average GPA of attending students, not average admits, usually that would be the lower end of those who were accepted and also can meen that many with a 3.71, if that is even the average gpa of those attending, which seems too low, with that gpa, were denied admission as well. to be a healthy match, you must fall around the average admit. HOW ON EARTH is the poster a match for UCSB but a slight reach-reach for pepperdine. Are you kidding me? bro a 3.6 and 1900 sat is at least a match for pepperdine, more like a safe match,and sure as hell not a slight reach-reach. haha pepperdine is deffiantly not Berkeley man. yes they have a low acceptance rate, but think about their average applicant. U of Chicago has a 40% acceptance rate, does that meen it is easier to get into than pepperdine. of course not. Pepperdine's average admit gpa may be a 3.7 but there is no way with their average sat is even close to a 1900. and remember further that uc's use single sitting sat, where as many other universities use multiple sitting which can inflate numbers. im guessing, but again not positive that pepperdine uses multiple sitting sat. There is no way that if UCSB is a match that pepperdine could be a slight reach-reach. That is ridiculous. You must be a pepperdine student to give odds like that. Everyone knows that pepperdine is not that tough to get into. and if the posters gpa is around or just barely below their reported average, but his SAT is far above their average, clearly their is no way he is a slight reach to reach. even if he doesnt donate time to a church. that is ridiculous. UCSB is deffiantly tougher to gain admission to than pepperdine. </p>

<p>UCSB: Match-Slight Reach
Pepperdine: Safe Match</p>

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<p>ALSO, i just found where socal18 got the 3.71 average freshmen student to ucsb statement. That is not what was stated on the site. It says the average applicant who just applied to ucsb had an average of 3.71. Obviously the admits are going to have a significantly higher average than the average applicant who applied. Where do you come up stating that an average of all applicants who applied is the same thing as the average student who was admitted to ucsb or the average student admit who decided to attend ucsb??? its the average applicant, not the average admit or student attending ucsb. </p>

<p>Heres what was stated on the ucsb's site:</p>

<p>"The average GPA of all freshmen applicants is 3.71, identical to last year's record level."</p>

<p>Heres the link: </p>

<p><a href="http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=1553%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=1553&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I still have no idea how you call a school with above a 3.9 GPA and above an 1850 SAT (single sitting computation) is somehow a defininte match, whereas a school with a 3.7 GPA average and SAT significantly lower (and probably uses the multiple sitting computation as well) is somehow a reach-slight reach. How ridiculous.</p>

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<p>UCSB: match / very slight reach (assuming you're in-state).</p>

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<p>Freshman Applicant Statistics (Fall 2006 Entering Class)</p>

<p>Applicants: 39,589</p>

<p>Admitted: 21,287 (53.8%)</p>

<pre><code>* 3.97 average GPA
* 1845 mean SAT I score
* 6.4% of admitted students are non-residents
</code></pre>

<p>Enrolled: 4260 (preliminary)</p>

<pre><code>* 3.74 mean GPA
* 1747 mean SAT score
* 61% GPA of 3.7 or above
* 584 mean Verbal SAT score
* 597 mean Math SAT score
</code></pre>

<p><a href="http://www.admissions.ucsb.edu/QuickFacts.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.ucsb.edu/QuickFacts.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Looking at the stats of who enrolls is much more accurate in determining ones chances. UCSB knows the stats of a student who will most likely attend so those in the range of 3.6-3.8, will most likely be accepted. Also the OP had an estimated SAT score of 1900, which is higher than the avg applicant, and 150pts higher than the average student at UCSB. </p>

<p>UCSB is match....</p>

<p>As for Pepperdine their avg. SAT is 1130-1350. The average UW is 3.7, while the average UC gpa (which has 8 semesters of ap/honors credit) is 3.74. Combined with Pepperdines 28% acceptance, It is definately much more competitive.</p>

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<p>ucsb isnt hard to get into.... i know someone with a 3.2 get in to ucsb.</p>

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<p>how many times can i say i also called ucsb a match. i believe i called it a match-slight reach. we are not argueing about how difficult ucsb is to get into, we both agree with is around a match. we are argueing about the difficulty to get onto pepperdine, which is not difficult to get into. there is ABSOLUTELY no way that Pepperdine UNWEIGHTED GPA for freshmen admits who elect to attend is 3.7. Hell, there is no way the average freshmen admit has an UNWEIGHTED GPA of 3.7 at pepperdine talk about the average freshmen admit who chooses to attend. You are full of it. I hate when people troll for their own schools and make up information. I have no reason to be bias, i dont or didnt attend santa barbara, nor did i attend Pepperdine. To say that the average freshmen student attending Pepperdine has an UNWEIGHTED GPA of 3.7 is ridiculous. Like i said not even the average freshmen admits of Pepperdine have a 3.7 UW GPA. Maybe weighted GPA for the admits is a 3.7, although i doubt that too. I cant even begin to tell you how many countless students at my high school attended Pepperdine with around a 3.0 GPA. where did you get the stat that the average freshmen admits who choose to attend pepperdine have a 3.7 GPA??? because that is ridiculous. Furthermore, how many times can you be told that admit rate is not an acurate way rating a school. The applicant pool to pepperdine is not a competitive one, and the school is small with a lots of applicants, so of course they are going to have a low admission rate. applicants to pepperdine are not usually the top students, period. im not saying all applicants to pepperdine are poor, they are not, many good students use it as a safety school, but obvisouly the quality of applicants at pepperdine is not very high. and admission rate meens nothing unless you compare it along side with the strength of the applicant pool. again show me where pepperdine claims it UNWEIGHTED GPA of FRESHMEN ADMITS WHO CHOSE TO ATTEND IS 3.7. This is bs as there is no way this is accurate. How on earth did you come up with pepperdine being a Reach-Slight Reach with the posters stats. That is ridiculous. You are calling ucsb a match and pepperdine a reach-slight reach, thats nuts. Stop trolling for your school and giving the poster a false sense of admissions chances. I dont know if you need a ego boost, maybe i should tell you Pepperdine is a great school and really tough to get into, would that make you feel better?</p>

<p>You stated:
"Looking at the stats of who enrolls is much more accurate in determining ones chances. UCSB knows the stats of a student who will most likely attend so those in the range of 3.6-3.8, will most likely be accepted."</p>

<p>-This is not true. To figure ones chances best in regards to the rest of the applicants, you must go off the average freshmen admit, not the average freshmen attendee. If you go by the average freshmen individual who chooses to attend, this is usually the lower-middle end of those accepted, hence many people who applied with the same or very similar stats were also denied. You are not just competing with those who attend for an admission spot. by only checking your odds with those who decide to attend, you forget that many with similar stats to the lower half of those who were admitted and attend, were denied. </p>

<p>UCSB: Match-Slight Reach</p>

<p>Pepperdine: Safe Match</p>

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<p>Go check out Pepperdine's common data set. The average is a 3.7 on the 4.0 scale. And I've visted the school and talked with an admissions counselor. She said they only take the UW gpa because most schools weight differently. Pepperdine is harder to get into....just get over it.</p>

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<p>haha oh youve visited the school and talked to a counselor there. oh you must know then. are you kidding man. you need to embrace reality and realize that pepperdine is simply a backup/safety school for better schools in the area (ucla, ucsd, usc etc.). if you dont already know this you should probably ask around, especially if you think that pepperdine has a 3.7 uw gpa average for those who attend. what a joke. you need to get over thinking a school that is not prestigious nor difficult to get into is, and inflating the admissions numbers. so hopefully you can embrace reality before pretending that someone with a3.6 and 1900 sat is a reach to pepperdine. what a joke this guy is.</p>

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<p>We obviously have different opinions. I think Pepperdine is harder to get into (especially since the op doesn't seem to have dedication to his/her church, and no rec letter from a minister/priest).</p>

<p>Whatever.....I'm done with this *****.</p>

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<p>i am also done with this... just think logically though, you called ucsb a match and pepperdine a reach. if ucsb is a match, then ucla would be a reach. so what you are pretty much saying is that pepperdine is approx the same in difficulty to gain admission to as ucla. that is aboslutely ridiculous. but whatever. im done.</p>

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<p>eugenia:</p>

<p>UCD/UCSB: Match</p>

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<p>lol, i noticed how you guys were debating ucsb and pepperdine and i didnt want to butt in or anything but i'd have to say pepperdine is more selective then ucsb.</p>

<p><a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=990%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=990&lt;/a>
<a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=3921&profileId=0%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=3921&profileId=0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>i dont understand how you can say ucsb is harder to get into when sb has an acceptance rate of 53% to pepperdine's 28%. not only that, but the sat/act scores of pepperdine is higher than sb also.</p>

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<p>one word, ridiculous. first of all, admission rate can have nothing to do with admissions difficulty and school quality if the average applicant to one school is significantly lower quality than applicants to another school. do you truly believe that pepperdine is a higher quality school or tougher to get into than, say, the university of chicago... of course not. well pepperdine has an acceptance rate of 28% and chicago a year or so ago had around 41-42%. secondly, ucsb and pepperdine compute SAT scores differently. ucsb uses single sitting method of computation, deflating their numbers, while pepperdine uses multiple sitting, inflating their numbers. thirdly, ucsb has a higher average admit and a higher GPA for freshmen admits who elect to attend. fourthly, if you want to see the schools' students quality, check what percentage of students at pepperdine were in the top 10% of their high school class. it is not even close to ucsb's incoming freshmen percentage, which i believe is around 95% in the top 10% of their high school class. Pepperdine would be lucky to be in the high 70% to low 80%. clearly ucsb is more selective than pepperdine in terms of student's academic history. the average applicant to pepperdine is significantly less qualified than the average applicant to ucsb. using an acceptance rate to justify why one school is more academically selective than another is ridiculous, unfounded, and simply put, ignorant. you should know better. i thought this post was dead. im tired of argueing. i thought i had already made all these points clear earlier in this thread, yet people keep bringing up acceptance rate as an argument. stupid.</p>

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<p>sorry bman14...that last post came off as a bit harsh...i thought the original poster posted that again... i didnt realize it was a different poster... well i still dont think pepperdine is more difficult than ucsb... but well have to agree to disagree. sorry about the last post, didnt meen to come off so harsh, i thought it was the other poster again making the same arguments he made earlier. accept my appology.</p>