<p>^^^ Not being in top 10 percent, kills your chances(96 percent of Upenn kids were in 10 percent), which means if you have no hook(urm, leagcy, athlete), your chances are slim …You need around a 2250 and be in the top 5 percent of your class to have any real chance(even then, upenn an mit are still high reaches)</p>
<p>Are you getting the University of Pennsylvanian and Penn State Confused…
^I hate it when people do that…</p>